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Aug 20 2009 08:54am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Sun, Aug 2 2009, 12:11pm)
http://i32.tinypic.com/33w1t75.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/AznMastaBui/Diablo/DuyCharScreen.jpg

both V/T screens.. his smite damage difference will rape yours.. 2.2k vs 3k.. and post your foh damage from that screen too, let's see..


ugh if anyone knew anything about v/ts in this post they would understand that lower damage on screen doesnt always mean lower damage off screen. 100% gaurantee that the euro v/t would rape buis. Even if its considered "bm". Bui's v/t is more of a T/V imo. and honestly foh damage doesnt mean shit if your opponent out convictions you.
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Tue, Jul 21 2009, 08:45am)
its also long range vs close range. smite already hurts a lot. if u smite someone rapidly (telesmite, trap em against a wall smite etc) they get hurt like hell already so the small 50 damage or so boost wont change much.

foh on the other hand needs work most of the time hence why the 800 damage boost helps a lot.

but in the end it comes down to your dueling style. myself i dont like to charge blindly into the fry to smite someone down. i like to wear em down first b4 i go for the kill. hence why i play sins and not barbs


ugh... foh damage barely matters. you focus on all the wrong points.
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Aug 20 2009 09:12am
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ugh if anyone knew anything about v/ts in this post they would understand that lower damage on screen doesnt always mean lower damage off screen. 100% gaurantee that the euro v/t would rape buis. Even if its considered "bm". Bui's v/t is more of a T/V imo. and honestly foh damage doesnt mean shit if your opponent out convictions you.


what i meant by refering to that screen is that, if you put on a 40/400 grief on either char, Bui's would have more damage (since his on-screen dmg is higher)..

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ugh... foh damage barely matters. you focus on all the wrong points.


in fact, smite is easily the most powerful attack at melee range with grief.. and foh damage does matter when you are dueling casters that like to l8z.. charge smite can work, but in cases where you can't charge, ex. against trapsins/hybrids, foh matters imo..
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Aug 20 2009 09:17am
[QUOTE=ashwinthegrim,Thu, Aug 20 2009, 08:12am]what i meant by refering to that screen is that, if you put on a 40/400 grief on either char, Bui's would have more damage (since his on-screen dmg is higher)..

in fact, smite is easily the most powerful attack at melee range with grief.. and foh damage does matter when you are dueling casters that like to l8z.. charge smite can work, but in cases where you can't charge, ex. against trapsins/hybrids, foh matters imo..[/QUOTE

...??? smite is better than maxing holy shield, i'm 100% positive on that. Just because bui shows higher damage doesnt mean he DOES higher damage. at level 90 the difference between 1 in holy shield and maxing holyshield for max block is 2 dexterity..

to be honest foh is only good with conviction, against es sorcs foh does nothing and for most things foh is simply to bother and pester not something that is gonna own. to be honest, the only real duel where foh has a great affect is vs necros. like i said before, focus on CONVICTION, before you even begin to think about foh damage as there is not much difference between 4k foh and 6-7k foh.

This post was edited by endymionlune on Aug 20 2009 09:18am
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[QUOTE=endymionlune,Thu, Aug 20 2009, 08:17am][QUOTE=ashwinthegrim,Thu, Aug 20 2009, 08:12am]what i meant by refering to that screen is that, if you put on a 40/400 grief on either char, Bui's would have more damage (since his on-screen dmg is higher)..

in fact, smite is easily the most powerful attack at melee range with grief.. and foh damage does matter when you are dueling casters that like to l8z.. charge smite can work, but in cases where you can't charge, ex. against trapsins/hybrids, foh matters imo..[/QUOTE]



...??? smite is better than maxing holy shield, i'm 100% positive on that. Just because bui shows higher damage doesnt mean he DOES higher damage. at level 90 the difference between 1 in holy shield and maxing holyshield for max block is 2 dexterity..

to be honest foh is only good with conviction, against es sorcs foh does nothing and for most things foh is simply to bother and pester not something that is gonna own. to be honest, the only real duel where foh has a great affect is vs necros. like i said before, focus on CONVICTION, before you even begin to think about foh damage as there is not much difference between 4k foh and 6-7k foh.

This post was edited by endymionlune on Aug 20 2009 09:19am
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Aug 20 2009 09:38am
you're right on that one thing though.. maxing smite is better than maxing HS.. but as for the foh, it is useful.. dueling necros, barbs, etc..
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Aug 20 2009 10:06am
[QUOTE=endymionlune,Thu, Aug 20 2009, 05:18pm][QUOTE=endymionlune,Thu, Aug 20 2009, 08:17am][QUOTE=ashwinthegrim,Thu, Aug 20 2009, 08:12am]what i meant by refering to that screen is that, if you put on a 40/400 grief on either char, Bui's would have more damage (since his on-screen dmg is higher)..

in fact, smite is easily the most powerful attack at melee range with grief.. and foh damage does matter when you are dueling casters that like to l8z.. charge smite can work, but in cases where you can't charge, ex. against trapsins/hybrids, foh matters imo..[/QUOTE]



...??? smite is better than maxing holy shield, i'm 100% positive on that. Just because bui shows higher damage doesnt mean he DOES higher damage. at level 90 the difference between 1 in holy shield and maxing holyshield for max block is 2 dexterity..

to be honest foh is only good with conviction, against es sorcs foh does nothing and for most things foh is simply to bother and pester not something that is gonna own. to be honest, the only real duel where foh has a great affect is vs necros. like i said before, focus on CONVICTION, before you even begin to think about foh damage as there is not much difference between 4k foh and 6-7k foh.[/QUOTE]

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Aug 20 2009 10:17am
worst guide I've ever read, common weak "i need to get as much life as I can, even if i have to sacrifice important stuff like fcr" nonlifetap build
spirit beats hoz in most situations if you choose to not use an exile, also 20 ias-blablabla-fuck-off-gloves are more than uncomfortable
trang-ouls beat them all the way and u keep the flexibility to switch on draculz (or cleglaws)

PS.: this is some kind of horrible t/v, not a v/tm you only hit acceptable smite dmg because you did not put a single point into vigor lolololololol

This post was edited by han on Aug 20 2009 10:19am
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Aug 20 2009 10:19am
The diff between 20-15smite and 20-15holy shield is minor however maxing holy shield gives u 4000more def and 1% more block.

As for the euro build, yes it will outsmite me, but on east it's not allowed due to the gear being considered bm so on east my setup would be the best "gm" one

Quote (han @ Thu, Aug 20 2009, 12:17pm)
worst guide I've ever read, common weak "i need to get as much life as I can, even if i have to sacrifice important stuff like fcr" nonlifetap build
spirit beats hoz in most situations if you choose to not use an exile, also 20 ias-blablabla-fuck-off-gloves are more than uncomfortable
trang-ouls beat them all the way and u keep the flexibility to switch on draculz (or cleglaws)

PS.: this is some kind of horrible t/v, not a v/tm  you only hit acceptable smite dmg because you did not put a single point into vigor lolololololol


you use trangs on a vt. Fail.

People nowadays are so stupid. They suggest bm gear like exile dracs and clegs for a gm build and think they're right just because it's gm on their realm. Before u try to insult me, learn the pvp rules of the realm u are suggesting so u don't look like an idiot again

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Aug 20 2009 10:58am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Thu, Aug 20 2009, 12:19pm)
The diff between 20-15smite and 20-15holy shield is minor however maxing holy shield gives u 4000more def and 1% more block.

As for the euro build, yes it will outsmite me, but on east it's not allowed due to the gear being considered bm so on east my setup would be the best "gm" one



you use trangs on a vt. Fail.

People nowadays are so stupid. They suggest bm gear like exile dracs and clegs for a gm build and think they're right just because it's gm on their realm. Before u try to insult me, learn the pvp rules of the realm u are suggesting so u don't look like an idiot again


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