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Aug 17 2009 09:01pm
Quote (Ratification @ Tue, Aug 18 2009, 02:41am)
Shako isnt a very good helm at all to use. But maxblock is not essential..If you know how to play your nec you will never get touched =]


its nice to lose the 200 life getting max block for a backup/easyish duel.
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Aug 17 2009 09:03pm
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its nice to lose the 200 life getting max block for a backup/easyish duel.


this. without block dragon claw or zerk can put a quick end to your necro's life.... dont even start on how one can can "godly" and never get hit
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Aug 17 2009 09:04pm
Quote (Soccergoal10 @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 10:01pm)
its nice to lose the 200 life getting max block for a backup/easyish duel.


Wait what? I was trying to accomplish that

Shako is inferior to a circ
Max Block is pointless if you know how to play your nec..What your trying to say im not quit sure
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Aug 17 2009 09:05pm
Quote (Ratification @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 11:04pm)
Wait what? I was trying to accomplish that

Shako is inferior to a circ
Max Block is pointless if you know how to play your nec..What your trying to say im not quit sure


regardless of how "good" you are. max block is worth the loss of like 200-300 life. without it a good sin or barb will destroy the nec after 1 mistake or something...

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 17 2009 09:06pm
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Quote (Ratification @ Tue, Aug 18 2009, 03:04am)
Wait what? I was trying to accomplish that

Shako is inferior to a circ
Max Block is pointless if you know how to play your nec..What your trying to say im not quit sure


never said anything about shako. I was saying max block helps. You should have it on a necro since you lose like 200-300 life with good gear compared to a vita build (nonblock)

edit: no i dont always agree with bui but in this argument I believe max block is basically necessary to have on an expensive necro considering it makes some duels very easy and helps in team duels etc.

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Quote (Azn Masta @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 10:05pm)
regardless of how "good" you are. max block is worth the loss of like 200-300 life. without it a good sin or barb will destroy the nec


Ah ok i understand that part.

My Rebuttal

I never use Shako im not able to hit my 86fhr bp with a shako on. or hit my 125fcr

My necro is a Vita necro so the points that people use for Max Block stay in my life pool.


Sins>Necs lets be honest it is extremly tough to beat a MB spamming Trap sin, or a Hybrid Sin that can easly MB Tele Tri WW theres nothing you can do to prevent that but WSG.

Thats why i find max block on a necro pointless.

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Aug 17 2009 09:11pm
Quote (Ratification @ Tue, Aug 18 2009, 03:09am)
Ah ok i understand that part.

My Rebuttal

I never use Shako im not able to hit my 86fhr bp with a shako on. or hit my 125fcr

My necro is a Vita necro so the points that people use for Max Block stay in my life pool.

Barbs not so much,

Sins>Necs lets be honest it is extremly tough to beat a MB spamming Trap sin, or a Hybrid Sin that can easly MB Tele Tri WW theres nothing you can do to prevent that but WSG.

Thats why i find max block on a necro pointless.


dude you switch your gear for the situation making it so you still have high life. A necro isnt insta death vs a trap or hybrid or ghost sin. It can put up a very good fight and usually comes down to who can play better, not on the class.
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Aug 17 2009 09:13pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 08:17pm)
if u tell people its "ok" they will start using it.... and they will mess up their build. might as well point them in the right direction the first time
The problem is that you aren't consistent. If you want the guide to represent the 100% ideal character with 100% perfect items, then you should do that. If you want the guide to represent realistic items, then you should do that. Obviously you could also provide both.

You don't mention CoA because circlet is ideal if you can get a godly one (which, from what I can tell, you yourself don't even have).
You don't mention using a fools warfist and a feral chaos because, although ideal, it is too hard to find.

So which is it? Is your guide supposed to represent an assassin with perfect gear, or an assassin with realistic gear?
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Aug 17 2009 09:14pm
actually a good necro should beat a good sin (unless the sin jsut sits behind corners all day and camps)

and max block helps that
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Aug 17 2009 09:15pm
Quote (Soccergoal10 @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 10:11pm)
dude you switch your gear for the situation making it so you still have high life. A necro isnt insta death vs a trap or hybrid or ghost sin. It can put up a very good fight and usually comes down to who can play better, not on the class.


I know what switch gear is bro. Sins>Necros there is no argument but yes it still comes down to skill..What im saying is. I Find putting in 200+dex for maxblock pointless. I previosly had a max block necro and i tested a vita necro and i found to my abilities that the max block was just to really make sure i win against barbs. So i tossed out the max block build and went vita and have had much better results.
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