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Hey dude, few questions:

do you actually attack with the wizzy? Or do you just tele with it, hit W, walk, fire, W, tele, walk, fire, fire, fire, etc...?

Also, do you telestomp with your Valk and your wizzy out? Or do you switch to bow when you land on someone for the killing blow?

Is it worth not maxing GA to max Valk, or is the diff negligible? It could probably go either way no? How long does your valk last in pvp? Does she die as fast as say a druid's summons?

Are there any videos of your zon in action?
Thanks in advance

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This post was edited by Engel on Dec 1 2009 09:26am

I attack a lot of ele chars with wiz spike, and sorb fc zons with it. I kill all fc zons with wiz spike alone, quite funny.
Valk lasts much longer. 3.4k life + dodge/avoid/evade/pene/crit

Telly stomp with wiz out then switch immediately to bow, just in case they're desperate enough to attack. Also, telly stomp, walk away a little to avoid attack spray from sorces, and then attack. Valk will frequently be immune to elemental attacks @ lvl 35+.

The phys dmg gained from GA on a vita psn telly zon is not worth not maxing valk, imo.

People try to argue whether or not maxing valk is a good idea or not. 100% it is. Make a telly zon with it, then make one without it. You'll clearly see the difference of having a meat shield that sorbs and deals damage.

I do not understand why your initial first post in this thread, you do not even mention decoy? Decoy gives hidden resistances +2 per base point and adds additional life ( alot of life ) to Valkyrie. My decoy under test build has +20 in it, so that means +40 All Resistances and so my Valkyrie's life would be like

4752 = 440 * (1 + 0.2 * ( 30ValkLVL + 20DecoyLVL - 1))

I am almost certain Hell Mode res does not apply to summons.

Valkyrie Res at level 1 = +4 | My Valkyrie Level 30 + Decoy Level = 100 Resistances, 85 Max Res in All

Level 30
Life: 4752
Stats: 750STR, 360DEX,
Res: 85% + 15
Damage: +750%
Defense: +290%
Attack Rating: +1240%



Finally something we agree on.

This post was edited by Engel on Dec 1 2009 03:27pm

Valk is just something you can't go half-assed into, and I opted for higher lvl ga/crit instead of decoy. You can't fully rely on valk, and at least one of those affects valk's dmg.

A maxed decoy does make for interesting results, however I find that most people who do not invest into ga/crit, invest into the dodges more and penetrate for added multi/valk bonuses.

eh, theres not exactly any purpose to maxing out your valkeries HP, so points in decoy are moot.
Most attacks that will kill your valk will do it in 1-2 hits, whether you have decoy maxed or not- and all you have to do is resummon it.


Just like how there is very little difference between a 2k HP grizzly and a 6k HP grizzly for a telesummoner, there is very little difference between 1 point decoy and 20 points decoy (besides the wasted skill points that could have gone elsewhere). But do remember in the end that each point into guided arrow is really just +5% damage, and 8 points in it have the same effect as a 40% ed jewel- very little. Hence GA is not really a skill worth maxing, not unless you have that many points to spare (you don't)

You assume I am missing any worthy percentages? If I say go on the easiest thinkable gear, 6208 - 7104 Damage, My critical is like 78% if you include deadly strike which is more than enough, my dodges are 55/69/58, my GA is 1.5Mana Consumption or level 27 in your terms, my life is easily 4200+ with level 11 Bo , Valk life 8000+, Much higher res, max IAS, ( with faith )45% OW, 8/43% DR, or 35% OW and 23%DR/50%+DR

Waste points in penetrate for AR for multi on a faith bow? Seriously... you should only have 1 in penetrate, 1 on pierce, Multi if you really want to use it is at 15 arrows by only 1 point wasted.

Relying on Valk? I think not ;o



I think people are missing the whole point of additional resists on Valkyrie, which means Valkyrie has the ability to resist elements with greater ability, where as a default Valkyrie with only 1 point in Decoy would have much less life, not to mention below 75 resists.

This post was edited by Engel on Dec 1 2009 11:28pm

yah, no sense in maxing penetrate when you're wearing faith- its not just helping your multi AR, its helping your valk too. 1 point is more than sufficient- you won't hit exile pallys either way much with multi, and you'll have no problems taking down casters with it. But IMO, at least the way I spam multi as a zon, 15 arrows is not quite enough. I like a bigger spread for mid distance scoping, so I'd likely go 5 points in it or so at the least



That might actually be a good point you might have me there.
But uh, one thing on that- does the decoy resistances cap out at 85 with the valkyrie, or it push it above 85?

Because if you have a level 25 valk (50% resistance) and add level 20 decoy (40% resistance) you'd be capped at 85, losing 5% resistance uselessly.

This post was edited by Hajonston on Dec 1 2009 11:35pm