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#941
Aug 17 2009 07:33pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 07:10pm)
in my opinion someone like yourself who suggested wrist sword chaos as a weapon should not be getting smart ass towards me about sins.
I revised it to war fist + ferals. Trying to cling to the one misstatement doesn't make your other argument any stronger.

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1) coa is ugly
Cool story bro.
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2) coa forces you to use a 20fcr ammy, you wont be able to switch off. and IF you decide to use coa you will need a 2sin/20fcr/str ammy - so you may be short on life/res etc...
You would get str/res from the jewels in the CoA, not to mention you could always swap to circlet + non fcr ammy for specific match ups.
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3) coa makes your lose 1 to sins and also 1 to venom/block/mastery/shadow/fade/mindblast
Yes, but you also save 7 fade points and gain +1 ALL skills which adds to BO and WW.
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4) coa has no life (or a max of ~40life)
The additional BO level rivals the potential life mod from a circlet.
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5) have you also noticed that people who actually play sins also agree with me that coa isnt the best choice? do some clear research to why circlet > coa before you reply.
I could care less what other people say, I look at the facts independently and make my own decisions. You'll notice that I still think circlet is the best choice if you have the correct circlet. I don't believe your NL sin has the correct circlet.


Quote (sylvannos @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 07:23pm)
imo the bolded part is more rare than a 2 sin / 20 fcr circlet. And a 2 os 30/31 CoA is probably more expensive than a plain 2 sin / 20 fcr circlet.

Overall: circlet is cheaper and easier to find than CoA + 2/20 ammy.

For circlet to beat CoA, it needs 2 sin/20 fcr/2 socket/40+ life minimum/one additional mod IMO. The mods needed for the amu would be along the lines of 2 sin/17+ fcr/45+ life.

This post was edited by KillersDream on Aug 17 2009 07:37pm
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Aug 17 2009 07:37pm
Quote (xSmithenatorx2 @ Mon, 17 Aug 2009, 18:28)
Why are you so venomously opposed to coa? "Have you noticed that people who actually play sins..agree..that coa [while not being the best choice if you have a completely amazing 2 soc circlet, is very far from being a bad choice, and depending on the items available to you is in fact, better than a circlet in some setups]"?


isaac just stop. bui isn't going to change his mind. he reminds me alot of a woman. once a woman has made up her mind. no matter how logical or how many ways you say it. she must be right.
and if all else fails. the woman must fight you to the death.

coa isn't a perfect helm but it shouldn't be thrown out as yesterdays garbage. it works.
however bui will never admitt to it working because well. hes stubborn?
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Aug 17 2009 07:41pm
Quote (UnEvilManiac @ Mon, 17 Aug 2009, 19:37)
isaac just stop. bui isn't going to change his mind. he reminds me alot of a woman. once a woman has made up her mind. no matter how logical or how many ways you say it. she must be right.
and if all else fails. the woman must fight you to the death.

coa isn't a perfect helm but it shouldn't be thrown out as yesterdays garbage. it works.
however bui will never admitt to it working because well. hes stubborn?


I slap stuck up bitches down.


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#944
Aug 17 2009 07:55pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Tue, Aug 18 2009, 01:10am)
in my opinion someone like yourself who suggested wrist sword chaos as a weapon should not be getting smart ass towards me about sins.

1) coa is ugly
2) coa forces you to use a 20fcr ammy, you wont be able to switch off. and IF you decide to use coa you will need a 2sin/20fcr/str ammy - so you may be short on life/res etc...
3) coa makes your lose 1 to sins and also 1 to venom/block/mastery/shadow/fade/mindblast
4) coa has no life (or a max of ~40life)
5) have you also noticed that people who actually play sins also agree with me that coa isnt the best choice? do some clear research to why circlet > coa before you reply.


In my opinion someone who couldn't build a proper hybsin 3 months ago shouldn't be getting too smart about them either.
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Aug 17 2009 08:17pm
Quote (xSmithenatorx2 @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 09:28pm)
Why are you so venomously opposed to coa?  "Have you noticed that people who actually play sins..agree..that coa [while not being the best choice if you have a completely amazing 2 soc circlet, is very far from being a bad choice, and depending on the items available to you is in fact, better than a circlet in some setups]"?


if u tell people its "ok" they will start using it.... and they will mess up their build. might as well point them in the right direction the first time

Quote (FnK @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 09:55pm)
In my opinion someone who couldn't build a proper hybsin 3 months ago shouldn't be getting too smart about them either.


i use the same hybrid i've been using forever.... still the same sin. you didnt know shit about my char so dont act as if you do. your nec uses a shako for god's sake. now stop the spam here unless you want another warn

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 17 2009 08:18pm
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Aug 17 2009 08:21pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Mon, 17 Aug 2009, 20:17)
if u tell people its "ok" they will start using it.... and they will mess up their build. might as well point them in the right direction the first time



i use the same hybrid i've been using forever.... still the same sin. you didnt know shit about my char so dont act as if you do. your nec uses a shako for god's sake. now stop the spam here unless you want another warn


Shako is an optimal nec helmet choice, and your guide setups have changed an ASSLOAD.
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Aug 17 2009 08:23pm
Quote (young2093 @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 10:21pm)
Shako is an optimal nec helmet choice, and your guide setups have changed an ASSLOAD.


shako is a fail nec helm. shako = no max block = fail in pvp

circle or valk are the only choices...

and my guide has changed a lot but i still use the same sin... i didnt remake it or anything. i just added more stuff in my guide

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 17 2009 08:24pm
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#948
Aug 17 2009 08:39pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Tue, Aug 18 2009, 02:17am)
i use the same hybrid i've been using forever.... still the same sin. you didnt know shit about my char so dont act as if you do. your nec uses a shako for god's sake. now stop the spam here unless you want another warn


1. No you haven't. Dig up your old guides and you'll realize it yourself (you're probably moronic enough to actually think that it hasn't changed)
2. How do you know my nec uses shako?
3. Shako can be good on nec sometimes
4. You cannot give warns, you're just a member.
5. Eat a dick
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#949
Aug 17 2009 08:41pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 09:23pm)
shako is a fail nec helm. shako = no max block = fail in pvp

circle or valk are the only choices...

and my guide has changed a lot but i still use the same sin... i didnt remake it or anything. i just added more stuff in my guide


Shako isnt a very good helm at all to use. But maxblock is not essential..If you know how to play your nec you will never get touched =]
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#950
Aug 17 2009 09:00pm
Quote (FnK @ Mon, Aug 17 2009, 11:39pm)
1. No you haven't. Dig up your old guides and you'll realize it yourself (you're probably moronic enough to actually think that it hasn't changed)
2. How do you know my nec uses shako?
3. Shako can be good on nec sometimes
4. You cannot give warns, you're just a member.
5. Eat a dick


he cannot give warns, true -- but I can

stop spamming and flaming.
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