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Aug 29 2011 04:43pm
should i use psn damage scs? or will that offset plague javs in some manner? (bow side or fury physical hits)

also, same question, but poison javs?
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Aug 29 2011 04:52pm
Quote (eSATA @ Aug 29 2011 04:38pm)
very nice build

best zon ever to kill anyone imo
but

psn can be "bm" --> psn & run :(


Hrmm yeah

Poisoning and running is not BM imo-
Running itself is BM. Any time you're overtly avoiding contact with your opponent its going to be BM, whether they're poisoned or not

But thankfully, if any build was ever able to tank out your opponent while they're poisoned, this is it. Virtually every time I duel a BvC, it ends with the BvC whirling around me as I chuck furies while sidestepping- no more teleporting from either of us.
But hey, its more or less a non-issue since most people who get poisoned will be drained to 1 hp within a matter of seconds, so theres no real chance to def-whore or l8z anyway

So yeah, people can always misuse it to bm, but I spose thats true of any build =/

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should i use psn damage scs? or will that offset plague javs in some manner? (bow side or fury physical hits)

also, same question, but poison javs?


Poison damage is always overwritten by any poison which deals more DPS, and since poison charms deal so little and plague deals so much, the instant a plague hits, it totally ignores your poison charms and does its normal bit.
So it won't interfere with plague javelin, but once plague hits, it won't do anything either (the psn charm is effectively dead). Interestingly, if you actually manage to hit your opponent with the physical javelin itself on plague javelin (not the cloud), it will include the poison on your charms for a slight bonus over the full duration of the plague javelin. Thats a glitch thats exploitable if you have venom on more than charms (since venom deals far more DPS than scs), but its very rare because you'd have to hit them with the javelin itself, which uses attack rating checks and whatnot (and the javelin throwing skills as well as fire/cold/etc arrow skills on amazons do NOT actually add the listed +% attack rating, due to a glitch, in fact no ranged skill except double throw does)

But on the other hand, a 451 poison charm while useless versus everyone else, is quite handy against defensive ES sorcs, since you'll be able to hit them with multi or ga spam quite easily. But ES sorcs are incredibly easy duels anyway thanks to plague + CS.
So I wouldn't recommend using any poison charms at all.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 30 2011 12:52am)
Hrmm yeah

Poisoning and running is not BM imo-
Running itself is BM. Any time you're overtly avoiding contact with your opponent its going to be BM, whether they're poisoned or not

But thankfully, if any build was ever able to tank out your opponent while they're poisoned, this is it. Virtually every time I duel a BvC, it ends with the BvC whirling around me as I chuck furies while sidestepping- no more teleporting from either of us.
But hey, its more or less a non-issue since most people who get poisoned will be drained to 1 hp within a matter of seconds, so theres no real chance to def-whore or l8z anyway

So yeah, people can always misuse it to bm, but I spose thats true of any build =/



Poison damage is always overwritten by any poison which deals more DPS, and since poison charms deal so little and plague deals so much, the instant a plague hits, it totally ignores your poison charms and does its normal bit.
So it won't interfere with plague javelin, but once plague hits, it won't do anything either (the psn charm is effectively dead). Interestingly, if you actually manage to hit your opponent with the physical javelin itself on plague javelin (not the cloud), it will include the poison on your charms for a slight bonus over the full duration of the plague javelin. Thats a glitch thats exploitable if you have venom on more than charms (since venom deals far more DPS than scs), but its very rare because you'd have to hit them with the javelin itself, which uses attack rating checks and whatnot (and the javelin throwing skills as well as fire/cold/etc arrow skills on amazons do NOT actually add the listed +% attack rating, due to a glitch, in fact no ranged skill except double throw does)

But on the other hand, a 451 poison charm while useless versus everyone else, is quite handy against defensive ES sorcs, since you'll be able to hit them with multi or ga spam quite easily. But ES sorcs are incredibly easy duels anyway thanks to plague + CS.
So I wouldn't recommend using any poison charms at all.


aaghhhh brainfuck ^^

to much information :P

This post was edited by GameBox on Sep 1 2011 03:04am
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Sep 3 2011 04:36pm
have you ever been so far even as decided to use go want to look more like
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Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 4 2011 12:36am)
have you ever been so far even as decided to use go want to look more like


as i said b4..

Quote (GameBox @ Sep 1 2011 11:04am)
aaghhhh brainfuck ^^



I Decided to make one!



its not done yet :)

Got any updates to this build? :)

This post was edited by GameBox on Sep 3 2011 04:49pm
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Sep 3 2011 05:30pm
yah, its posted every few pages:

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Faith Shadow Bow
Eth Titans (or godly 400/40/4/eth/rep javas)
Stormshield
Enigma
Griffon's Eye (15/15)
+2 javas / 20% ias / knockback rare glove (+resists)
Arachs
Rare all resists boots
1x FCR ring (+resists, stats, etc)
1x Ravenfrost
+2 Zon 17%+ FCR amulet
9x Java/Life Skillers (nn fhr on zon)
10x 20/5 scs
Torch/Anni
Sub charm slots out as necessary for cube or directly placed CTA- 1 less skiller and 1 less sc works, or 2 less skillers for cta in inventory (much easier to swap out without dropping it)

20 plague
20 poison
20 charged strike
20 lightning fury
1 guided arrow
1 d/a/e
1 valk (might as well if you get slow missiles for pubs- otherwise you can skip these points for more CS damage)
1 crit/penetrate/pierce
rest lightning bolt- remember this is used over fury against BvA's
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Sep 3 2011 06:04pm
ahhhh i used the first page XD

much diffrence

atm its rebuilded into pure java..

going to lvl it a little more :)

This post was edited by GameBox on Sep 3 2011 06:04pm
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Sep 7 2011 05:17pm
Ah you know, I've forgotten to put a merc gear section, or pvm at all.
One of the nice perks about the damach zon is that without even needing to respec, its got the right gears & skills to be ridiculously good at PvM, too. Very fast tele and wipe mobs with one hit.

A good merc setup is usually holy freeze with:
Infinity
CoA (Ber + Um, or 2x Ber)
G-angel (Vex, or Ber)


Anyways, my damach zon can do full chaos, shenk, eldritch, and nihlithak, all before a normal baal bot will reach baal (usually in time to reach the last wave)
Now mind, if you really wanted to level it up, it would be wise to respec to remove your D/A/E, because those really gimp you in PvM.
Mind you lose valkyrie doing this, which is useful to keep your merc alive, but with the extra CS synergy it pays off nicely, and you can respec back to normal when you're done. Good use of tokens.

But imo, it runs even better than a pure pvm CS zon- because the plague java and switch fanat + garrow (fanat greatly helping merc, remember) makes it real boss.
Theres lots of unbreakable light immunes in chaos (pretty much any of the 3 minibosses with lightning enchanted), and being able to take them out with either LF, Garrow + telestomp merc, or plague, really helps a ton



So yeah, its a PvP build, but it shines nicely in PvM too
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Sep 7 2011 05:27pm
ladder reset>>

Can I get the name of it so I know whom to hunt down???

Btw who is Bladesin(*clan-iraq)
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Sep 7 2011 05:30pm
Funniest guide ever!

10/10

Pure Epicness! :thumbsup:
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