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Dec 4 2009 10:35am
i prob posted here before but i play vita zon i prefer it in terms of fun i dont like glass builds theres no consistency.

mine: 4k life/20dr/135frw/20fhr/stacked res/1k-5k dmg/7fps speed ... i like it, so what else actually matters... ?
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Quote (Mattd90 @ 3 Dec 2009 22:40)
you got about 90 pages of reading to do.. things change


things/ best builds in this case dont change. but maybe OP´s opinion changed - because his old build is crap - @least @some important facts, like titANS + cta@cube, etc.
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How does this bowazon do vs sorrowfulhatred's poison/tele/vita zon?
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Quote (Pimpslapper @ Dec 5 2009 07:37am)
How does this bowazon do vs sorrowfulhatred's poison/tele/vita zon?


naturally sorrows will win, it has mobility and damage dealing advantage over spart's. however, i have beaten plenty of tele/psn with my vita zons, its just a bit more challenging than most duels though. The main advantage spart's has over sorrow's is jav/shield switch with lf which means u can block while u attack and sorrow can not.
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little bit stacked in the comparison? why exactly can a dex zon not have res and dr? why compare the life of dex zon without bo to life of vitazon with bo? a dex zon could have all of those things as well.

A dex zon CAN have dr and res but whats the point,?they will still die in 1 hit...

I compare the life of a dex zon without BO because they dont use a CTA, after all why use BO when you have hardly any base life to multiple.
I use BO on the vita zon because it will be on her switch and always available and is a key component of the build.

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things/ best builds in this case dont change. but maybe OP´s opinion changed - because his old build is crap - @least @some important facts, like titANS + cta@cube, etc.


Build is perfectly fine. You can use cta and spirit for about 90% of your duels. For those rare occasions where you need titans and ss, like vs a smiter have one stored in your stash and grab it real quick. Bottom line is you need to use the CTA for BO way more than you need titans and ss. All of these items are mentioned in the last 90 some pages from time to time. I would love to edit my original build, it was posted almost 2 years ago so there are a few things that could be improved.

Quote (Pimpslapper @ Dec 5 2009 08:37am)
How does this bowazon do vs sorrowfulhatred's poison/tele/vita zon?


ive dueled him a number of times and have either beat him or come dang close every time. However, keep in mind that in a 1 vs 1 private duel vs a tele zon its just a durations battle. They will shoot in your direction and just constantly teleport away usually staying several screens away. Only way to effectively beat a tele zon is to set up camp in a house and let them come to you. If they choose to teleport around, call them a wuss for running and either they will step up to the challenge and tele into the house and you will rip them apart or they will tele around and it will be a draw.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Dec 5 2009 01:20pm
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Hmm, I have only about twenty hours dueling in now with the tele/psn zon, nonetheless I still have met maybe one bowazon that was a valid threat. Even Javazons are a joke with the psn/tele build, unless they FC.

As for staying in the house, that is a lame tactic IMO. I duelled a wind druid who did that, since I am not stupid enough to tele into the house and he just stayed there = next duel.

Yeah the not attacking while blocking can be a pain with the psn/tele build. If you get nado locked, or name-locked sometimes you can't do shit but die. Though I have killed the odd sorc with my wizard spike hehe.

Thanks for the info, and I don't think I mentioned this, but thanks to the OP for all the helpful break points and info in this guide. Bookmarked for reference!
Cheers,





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Hmm, I have only about twenty hours dueling in now with the tele/psn zon, nonetheless I still have met maybe one bowazon that was a valid threat.  Even Javazons are a joke with the psn/tele build, unless they FC.

As for staying in the house, that is a lame tactic IMO.  I duelled a wind druid who did that, since I am not stupid enough to tele into the house and he just stayed there = next duel.

Yeah the not attacking while blocking can be a pain with the psn/tele build.  If you get nado locked, or name-locked sometimes you can't do shit but die.  Though I have killed the odd sorc with my wizard spike hehe.

Thanks for the info, and I don't think I mentioned this, but thanks to the OP for all the helpful break points and info in this guide.  Bookmarked for reference!
Cheers,

Yes staying in a house may be a lame tactic, but shooting ppl from 4 screens away and then teleporting like a wuss soon as they get close sounds pretty lame and not fun at all to me.Yeah you may win 1vs1 duels in private games vs regular bow amazons but i bet the duels take 10+ minutes a piece if they have good gear and a decent build. With 10 minutes of time i could easy do 10-15 duels winning 90% or more vs a wide variety of characters.

Also, dont forget that anybody with decent cast rate will be able to out tele a zon any day. Ele druids, necros, sorcs, barbs....they all have much faster casting break points than a zon. And if they have MB and maxed psn res ur screwed.

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Quote (Spartikis @ Dec 6 2009 06:00pm)
Yes staying in a house may be a lame tactic, but shooting ppl from 4 screens away and then teleporting like a wuss soon as they get close sounds pretty lame and not fun at all to me.Yeah you may win 1vs1 duels in private games vs regular bow amazons but i bet the duels take 10+ minutes a piece if they have good gear and a decent build. With 10 minutes of time i could easy do 10-15 duels winning 90% or more vs a wide variety of characters.

Also, dont forget that anybody with decent cast rate will be able to out tele a zon any day. Ele druids, necros, sorcs, barbs....they all have much faster casting break points than a zon. And if they have MB and maxed psn res ur screwed.


Yeah, people sorb, but I am used to it having played a fire druid for a very long time as well.
But most will get killed first before they do :)
I think it is lame too when people just spam multi from four screens away. I don't tend to do this unless I get BM'd. But in pubs these days, anything seems to go. I don't do private duels. I also hate changing gear around, and tend to stick with one good setup for vs all. Unless a foh'er or FC zon joins, I usually don't switch up.
The bottom line is, the bowazon rocks, regardless if tele or not :)

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Dec 6 2009 02:32pm
no max block /facepalm vs any bowa you're going to get slammed pretty hard
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no max block /facepalm vs any bowa you're going to get slammed pretty hard


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