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#901
Nov 23 2009 05:14pm
Quote (CeUnspoken @ Nov 23 2009 11:29am)
since u max out dodge/avoid/evade
what is ur % of actually dodging
and at what lvl is ur skill


dodge lvl 27 - 59%
avoid lvl 27 - 69%
evade lvl 27 - 59%

if you follow the gear exactly the way i have it setup and use perfect skill items (like +2 skill faith) you will only need 19 in each of the skills rather than maxing it at 20
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#902
Nov 23 2009 08:49pm
Quote (whookash @ Nov 18 2009 03:15pm)
nice ^^ all statics etc rly nice ^^

i didnt read all pages but can u tell me how do u get 7 fpa with coa ? with gmb? or u just use diamond or smthn?
isnt for tvt best setup 30/120/45 with gmb and all other standard gear?


thank u


with coa and gmb, ur gonna need ias in your armor for that. but if u want coa and fort (which is recommended for this build) i'd go with either diamond or shadow faith.

Quote (locuno1 @ Nov 18 2009 01:09pm)
i've read through most of the pages this seems like a very nice guide and makes me want to try it out.

the thing some ppl are forgetting is that not everyone will run away from light fury or w/e it is especially in pub duels when they can just put tgods on and be safe.

with that being said i think the cta switch is the best idea.


vs barbs and ghosts, ive found alot of the time that ss + cta and the correct timing is better, however there are times where i do need javs because the person is exceptionally well at short wws.

as for pallys with charge, lf + a shield is the only way out of that one.

Quote (funkynoc1 @ Nov 22 2009 01:26am)
gawd this build again........Ill say it again, life on bowzons is pointless. Only alows you around 2 or more hits before you die. Cookie build blah blah.


2 hits? I tank like 4+ more hits than a glass zon lol. Only instances where that isnt true is vs high damage blizz sorcs or pure chargers.

Quote (mvm199 @ Nov 23 2009 05:29am)
crap.


lol
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#903
Nov 23 2009 10:18pm
How would a vit amazon do against a barb with 50DR and 7k+ health? I can't imagine them being able to do anything. :/

Edit: Obviously I mean I want an explanation better than the guide. :P I mean you can't just run away from every single WW.

This post was edited by ColdSteelBlade on Nov 23 2009 10:20pm
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Nov 23 2009 10:53pm
Quote (ColdSteelBlade @ Nov 23 2009 11:18pm)
How would a vit amazon do against a barb with 50DR and 7k+ health? I can't imagine them being able to do anything. :/

Edit: Obviously I mean I want an explanation better than the guide. :P I mean you can't just run away from every single WW.


barbs are actually probably one of the easiest match ups for a vitazon imo. That justs me though. People who dont use zons alot and cant predict tele + ww patterns may have more trouble.

And yes, with enough luck to hit that block and dodge % + enough skill to know how to run/attack, you can avoid getting hit by alot of barbs.

The pro barbs however can chainlock much better than the average barb which allows them to hit u more or at least be on top of u more often... however those number barbs are small.
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Nov 24 2009 04:56am
Quote (ColdSteelBlade @ 24 Nov 2009 05:18)
How would a vit amazon do against a barb with 50DR and 7k+ health? I can't imagine them being able to do anything. :/

Edit: Obviously I mean I want an explanation better than the guide. :P I mean you can't just run away from every single WW.


for some reason he isn't stashing cta in a cube in his invent and using javs, idk why. you can just sit and jab/lf pk barbs like that.

Quote (Mattd90 @ 24 Nov 2009 05:53)
barbs are actually probably one of the easiest match ups for a vitazon imo. That justs me though. People who dont use zons alot and cant predict tele + ww patterns may have more trouble.

And yes, with enough luck to hit that block and dodge % + enough skill to know how to run/attack, you can avoid getting hit by alot of barbs.

The pro barbs however can chainlock much better than the average barb which allows them to hit u more or at least be on top of u more often... however those number barbs are small.


most east barbs are shit but if they can chain constant tris I think they beat any non block zon

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#906
Nov 24 2009 08:46am
Quote (Tails chao @ 24 Nov 2009 10:56)
for some reason he isn't stashing cta in a cube in his invent and using javs, idk why. you can just sit and jab/lf pk barbs like that.



most east barbs are shit but if they can chain constant tris I think they beat any non block zon


Yeah what I did on my cheap bowzon was to start at range, when they get in close just walk/LF and murder them. Can't imagine not having SS/titans on a bowzon.

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#907
Nov 24 2009 08:54am
Quote (Tails chao @ Nov 24 2009 05:56am)
for some reason he isn't stashing cta in a cube in his invent and using javs, idk why. you can just sit and jab/lf pk barbs like that.



most east barbs are shit but if they can chain constant tris I think they beat any non block zon


a shitty barb will beat a nonblock zon.

I have yet to find any barbs on d2pk or east to give me problems. The only ones on east to give me a run for my money and a challenge were Punch, STRENGTH, and Stone and that was on east

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#908
Nov 24 2009 05:21pm
hmmm
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#909
Nov 24 2009 05:27pm
Quote (Mattd90 @ 24 Nov 2009 15:54)
a shitty barb will beat a nonblock zon.

I have yet to find any barbs on d2pk or east to give me problems. The only ones on east to give me a run for my money and a challenge were Punch, STRENGTH, and Stone and that was on east


If they're a slow namelocker then the Zon will be able to get a few kills.

Quote (ColdSteelBlade @ 24 Nov 2009 15:46)
Yeah what I did on my cheap bowzon was to start at range, when they get in close just walk/LF and murder them. Can't imagine not having SS/titans on a bowzon.


Yeah same I <3 jav/storm.
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#910
Nov 24 2009 05:34pm
am i supposed to add stats into str for dis build or wut

hitting wenuf str to wear coa base aint happenin...
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