Hi,

im still struggeling a bit. Trying to make a excel sheet to easier see builds xD
(26*26-217) i understand this part.
(1+(0,1*26+0,15)) i guess that part is the internal enhanced dmg on the summon grizzly. Same as (1+((26*1,15/100)) aka 15% ed pr skill lvl.
+0,675 (no idea what this is?)
(0,07*33+0,13) guessing HoW. 7% * slvl + base of 13% so i guess i understand this as well.
1,05 i understand this is the 5% crit chance.

Which means im left with this:
+0,675 (missing link, might be smite?) lvl 11 smite is 167
and how does the bear smite work? is it the same level smite nomather grizzly level? Is it plain 120% ed?

It might be the same thing xD

Okay, googl'ed some and found smite to be constant 120% if hell.
So where is the +0,675 comming from?

Edit again:
Finally get it.
120% dmg
50% chance
120 / 50 = 60 but w8, no still dont get it xD

Went back in topic, found it out^^
Grizzly avg base damage is slvl*30-329, with %ed granted by grizzly equal to 10*slvl+15, a 50% chance to level 8 bearsmite for +120% ed (+135% with BC for level 9, so average 67.5%) and 5% chance to crit



This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 20 2019 07:40am

Well I've got my Shaman up and running on ESCL
my observations so far are that stash bo is cumbersome as ever and cube bo isn't a big sacrifice with -1 summoning / -65 life / -5% resists maximum potential charms (ladder: more like 50 life / 4 resists)
and I'm still torn between three setups: x geddon / 1 how, 1 geddon / x how, 0 geddon / x+6 how (or maybe +4 and 1 point cyclone, idk)
I'm at level 92 so its 12 geddon / 1 how vs 1 geddon / 12 how vs 0 geddon / 16-18 how

I'm really leaning towards the more HoW setup, maybe even the 0 geddon with my pelt being a plain +3 grizzly delirium. Maybe I need to do more respec dueling but I don't expect volcano to fhr any good chars unless its on facet side, and pulling off a facet side namelock volcano stomp is the hardest and riskiest thing I could do, its total shields down- low fcr, low resists after a weapon switch that takes non-zero frames. And geddon without facet side and low ele skills is really so mediocre that its a hard sell for its 'free damage'. If the difference to grizzly was bigger I'd be far more sold on the tradeoff, but it is pretty marginal. With stash bo and 18/12/1 how its 13039/12333/11362 grizzly. Whats better, +15% damage to your primary skill, or gain some mostly irrelevant geddon and make volcano somewhat relevant? I still am not settled
I'm going to keep playing with the 12 how / 1 geddon build for now

but yeah the facet side fissure is of course just shreking everything that isn't a wizspike hdin. Its really a night and day difference in fissure damage. Its 1 week ladder ofc, but I don't expect stacked fire resists to ever be a norm
The one improvement I'm leaning towards is that a FCR amulet, even a non-crafted one, would let facet side rise from the terrible 14 fpa casting to slightly less terrible 13 fpa. Having a crafted amulet and a fcr ring would be -1 skills but allow facet side to go 12 fpa. Not sure that's worth it. Its still 99% fcr on hoto side.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Dec 14 2019 03:01pm

Glad to hear, pm me your setup when you get a chance. I'm curious what you're running early ladder

oh nothing special, the gears all standard and the only place a shaman can really find a trophy is the pelt, all I've got is a plain +3 grizzly delirium and mediocre ravenlore swap
enigma, delirium, maras, sojs, magefist, rare resist boots, arachs, hoto/spirit, cta, 30/30 sword + 20/20 shield (actually a +3 rep jewelers monarch of regeneration, I guess that's more notable than a plain monarch), torch/anni, 9x summon lifers and assorted life/resist scs.

one of my goals this season is to eventually buy up a set of ele lifers, stormshield, 20/20 armor of the whale, dungos and a bunch of respec tokens. That would leave me with just the amount of inventory space necessary for swaps (no pvm stash or sorb swaps though), allowing me to respec my shaman into a geddon werebear tank and back again as I feel like it. I figure I could hit a 7k life / 75% block / 50% dr / stacked resists werebear with shockwave and 19k / -80% geddon, using 20 lycan and 1 fissure. Would be a fun build for trolling, and it overlaps on 80% of the shaman gear and needs a high level druid so seems fitting to use tokens instead of a 2nd druid. I've been meaning to play around with the tank variant of the geddon druid as opposed to the WSG one. Although an enigma based -60% tanky fire druid who has 1 point lycan and 20 fissure is probably a 'better' build, but a shaman is already better so that would seem redundant, I'll make the tank just for trolling

I like the sound of that! I might respec real quick and go pure geodon and fissure and just zoom around in pub duels

sounds fun, but i play nl where loads of guys are using sop and have stack eq

so i respeced and made level 98 tele fury/rabies with 40k rabies standard gear(switchbug with perf facet dw and 20/20 monarch).
between 70 and 100fcr.
it succesfully kills a lot of hammers/smiters/babas/nec/soso/druids/bowas. i have killed blizz sosos, but i go down to 2 blizz. but with zoo its possible to kill those and foh'ers even though i dont have super much stack eq.
this works good vs most. those who have good stack vs psn can be hard. i can boost rabies to 48k with relevant gear.

on the side im also building my fireclaw bear. will be decent i hope, gonna be to mix around with shaman/fireclaw build. but first i need to get myself 4 x 5frw/max/ar scs for wolf and change random 3/xx/xx scs on baba and respec 20 more dex so throw hit palas better xD i would also love a eth fools, 30ias, 2 soc, 28x, self rep ba, guess that would give my dudu 50k ar or so matched with visio helm. but botd ba already got 22,9k ar so dno if its worth the effort xD i get problems hitting good enough if babas and palas reach 18k ish def. palas are easier though, or barbs dont matter if dont stack the - 75 psn res.

im hoping to reach 22k ish ar on throwbarb which would make him into a killing machine xD

This post was edited by gel87 on Dec 16 2019 02:39am