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Aug 21 2015 10:06am
And a jmod 160/60 and a 2 skill (1% attack rating per level) 2 socket circlet 80/30 you would be bloody close to beating 7k light damage if it broke the next framerate. If in fact dreams would give you 7k light damage per hit.

My only arguement with you was that a dream zealer is always going to be not very good if you arent maximizing the damage holy shock does. And that a zealer with holy freeze running with those two items i mentioned would own your dream zealer pvm anyday anyhow.

This post was edited by 142751 on Aug 21 2015 10:10am
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So im wrong about holy shock and it does in fact add lightning damage to your weapon as well as shock enemies in the radius?


yes it adds 1-7005 light damage to your swings when fully synergized

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I didnt know that but my arguement still stands.


it's a good secondary element on top of phys damage, makes high DR mobs smoother

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yes it adds 1-7001 light damage to your swings when fully synergized


I didnt know that but my arguement still stands.
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Aug 21 2015 10:13am
Quote (142751 @ Aug 21 2015 08:06pm)
And a jmod 160/60 and a 2 skill (1% attack rating per level) 2 socket circlet 80/30 you would be bloody close to beating 7k light damage if it broke the next framerate. If in fact dreams would give you 7k light damage per hit.

My only arguement with you was that a dream zealer is always going to be not very good if you arent maximizing the damage holy shock does. And that a zealer with holy freeze running with those two items i mentioned would own your dream zealer pvm anyday anyhow.

gl vs all those unbreakable cold immunes.

Please stop posting if you don't know what you're talking about.
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Aug 21 2015 10:21am
Quote (142751 @ 21 Aug 2015 18:06)
And a jmod 160/60 and a 2 skill (1% attack rating per level) 2 socket circlet 80/30 you would be bloody close to beating 7k light damage if it broke the next framerate. If in fact dreams would give you 7k light damage per hit.

My only arguement with you was that a dream zealer is always going to be not very good if you arent maximizing the damage holy shock does. And that a zealer with holy freeze running with those two items i mentioned would own your dream zealer pvm anyday anyhow.


Dream zealer is a lot faster killer then holy freeze...

Cold immunes cant often be broken, unlike light.

Also ook n freeze zealer youll need doom, wich is breakable easily.

With light you can pick grief pb or death ba or ebotd ba
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Aug 21 2015 10:35am
m8 i cant believe this, 10 pages already.
It is such a versatile character build that even 10 pages of discussion can't tell what is the best build.
In the end i don't think there is one best build dream zealer. It all comes down to personal preferences and ofcourse...
how much u are willing to spend on it.
U can make it offensive, allround or defensive.
In my last wish / eni build its a great allrounder, just as the hammer is. Only more fun to play.
With the jewelers armor and death setup it will be much more like a regular zealer but with the 7k light dmg added.
If u go full elemental u might as well keep a cta in stash and use doom ba on switch...maybe just for the fun of it^^ (games are ment to be fun afterall)
1 thing is for sure, a lot of people have been joining this thread meaning there is a lot of interest in the build.
Im hoping to c a lot more dream zealers in the future^^
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Aug 21 2015 10:46am
Quote (watermarkxx @ 21 Aug 2015 18:35)
m8 i cant believe this, 10 pages already.
It is such a versatile character build that even 10 pages of discussion can't tell what is the best build.
In the end i don't think there is one best build dream zealer. It all comes down to personal preferences and ofcourse...
how much u are willing to spend on it.
U can make it offensive, allround or defensive.
In my last wish / eni build its a great allrounder, just as the hammer is. Only more fun to play.
With the jewelers armor and death setup it will be much more like a regular zealer but with the 7k light dmg added.
If u go full elemental u might as well keep a cta in stash and use doom ba on switch...maybe just for the fun of it^^ (games are ment to be fun afterall)
1 thing is for sure, a lot of people have been joining this thread meaning there is a lot of interest in the build.
Im hoping to c a lot more dream zealers in the future^^


Well said m8!

But using Doom without putting moints in Resist Cold (biggest synergy), is a waste imo!

Id Rather use 6sox pb with 5/5 facets (they do increase the light dmg, right? :O (correct me if im wrong here!)
Either stay full light (when going Elemental), or light/cold, and max resist cold also, and less points in salvation (1 holy shield, rest salvation perhaps)

So 20 sacr, 1 zeal, 1 hs, 20 resist cold, 20 resist light, rest salation.

Skilling redempotion is a possibility, but not a must (as feanur said: u can get it on cta scepter), hs neither (since it can be on cta scept too), and vigor is just nice to have for mobility (esp in non enig setups)

As told before aslo: lifetap isnt needed that much, ofcourse it will be safety for you and your merc (also the fade when struck is very nice, esp with 'low' res)

But Last Wish is Breakable, pretty fast too!

Thats why I rather use grief/death/botd (botd nice choice too, forget to mention)
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Aug 21 2015 11:20am
Quote (Klaasje123 @ Aug 21 2015 05:46pm)
Well said m8!

But using Doom without putting moints in Resist Cold (biggest synergy), is a waste imo!

Id Rather use 6sox pb with 5/5 facets (they do increase the light dmg, right? :O (correct me if im wrong here!)
Either stay full light (when going Elemental), or light/cold, and max resist cold also, and less points in salvation (1 holy shield, rest salvation perhaps)

So 20 sacr, 1 zeal, 1 hs, 20 resist cold, 20 resist light, rest salation.
Skilling redempotion is a possibility, but not a must (as feanur said: u can get it on cta scepter), hs neither (since it can be on cta scept too), and vigor is just nice to have for mobility (esp in non enig setups)

As told before aslo: lifetap isnt needed that much, ofcourse it will be safety for you and your merc (also the fade when struck is very nice, esp with 'low' res)

But Last Wish is Breakable, pretty fast too!

Thats why I rather use grief/death/botd (botd nice choice too, forget to mention)


thats why indeed u have to skill resist cold then too but it gives u the full elemental version of the dreamzealer^^

the skills are correct but i would put in the case of synergized doom: 20 fana + 20 zeal + 20 resist light + 20 resis cold + 1 hs + rest salvation,
so you get most out of the elemental dmg while maintaining nice physical
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Aug 21 2015 11:34am
Quote (watermarkxx @ 21 Aug 2015 19:20)
thats why indeed u have to skill resist cold then too but it gives u the full elemental version of the dreamzealer^^

the skills are correct but i would put in the case of synergized doom: 20 fana + 20 zeal + 20 resist light + 20 resis cold + 1 hs + rest salvation,
so you get most out of the elemental dmg while maintaining nice physical


you'll prefer use pala bear instead with 6sox pb I think
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Aug 21 2015 11:49am
Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 04:29pm)
im not saying you dont kill demons faster. you will kill a demon in 9 seconds that takes me 10. and i will kill anything non demon in 10 seconds and it will take you 20.

if i use loh and you draks, i'll kill demons faster than you, and kill non demons as fast as you
loh doesn't decrease your dmg agains non demons :bonk:


So, let's sum up the points where you were wrong:
grief setup has more dmg (post#75)
soe > dungo because of the mdr
loh > draks because:
the fr on loh is useful because else you waste inventory space to get it on charms
the ias on loh is useful because in baalruns and diaruns you spend maybe 30% of your time under the effect of decrepify
the ed on loh is useful
ow on draks is useless because you have gores
lt is not gonna save you against your deadly archers, because of confuse
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