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Jan 1 2012 12:54am
Quote (mysz15 @ Dec 24 2011 02:56pm)
too many setups...
pick 1 or 2... not 5

i prefer my one all around setup - 4k mana, 1,2k life , 9k dmg, 95es soso with almost maxed resi, with mediocre stuff (3x life sks, scs ~17/15, ~100fg crafts/rares)
i dunno how to calculate that but imo 95es 4kmana/1,2k life soso will last more hits than 1,9k life/3,5k mana/70es ...and if i'd take perfect stuff as yours than probably stats will rise
drasticly making this 95es build even stronger.

If someone's into test which build will last more hits than i can arragne such party;)


I only use one set up. The examples listed are simply options based on affordability.
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Jan 1 2012 06:10am
too low mana.. 3.5k only. If u get 2-3 fb ur mana is 0. so 95 % es need!
with precast ( amu / circ / memory / ormus ) you can reach ~10k blizz dmg!

i would use 2/20/str / mana circ and enigma.. FRW is very important.. and you need only 75 psn resi.
so u can use 2x sojs aswell.. and mana boots too 30 frw / 10 fhr / mana / psn res


This is my opinion.
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Quote (vargad @ Jan 1 2012 08:10am)
too low mana.. 3.5k only. If u get 2-3 fb ur mana is 0. so 95 % es need!
with precast ( amu / circ / memory / ormus ) you can reach ~10k blizz dmg!

i would use 2/20/str / mana circ and enigma.. FRW is very important.. and you need only 75 psn resi.
so u can use 2x sojs aswell.. and mana boots too 30 frw / 10 fhr / mana / psn res

This is my opinion.


And a good one, at that. Thanks for the input bro, any feedback just makes this guide better.
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Jan 10 2012 10:00pm
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Jan 10 2012 11:03pm
I don't think es/vita blizz sorces are that good in my opinion....

surely, it cannot truly fit the fact that this is a char that can svs very well...since IMO' any decent FB sorc has a lot of stack and will easily FHR lock you due to having such minimum es %/mana...Can it play very well against bvc,druids,hdins? Doutbful, by any means if you stick with this build/same gear at all times , you get minimum DR/no chance to sorb/nor to stack truly against other elemental (es for that matter...)

I don't think this build has any advantage at all, sure the word hybrid is being thrown out as some sort that it gives you the right to mana potting therefore it gives you the illusion that you can ''tank''....


Say we take the popular duelers's chars:

BVC,Ghost,Trapper,Nec,Nado Druids,Hdins,Vt,Smiters,WW sins,Cs zons, Bowa zons....

in which of these chars do you truly have the adv?

IMO' going 90+% es is the way to go..you perhaps lose 2k less damage, but atleast you tank more and won't get fhr locked that easily. + For bmanas, you can get unperm ones at 10 a pop on East even less sometimes...

To me going half mana/half vita gets you crippled. The fact that you lose the adv to sorb/dr/stacl/switch gears and you cannot truly tank at all with the es/gotta rely on mana pots. IMO Go either all vita or all mana in these situations.

This post was edited by Bagheera on Jan 10 2012 11:04pm
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Jan 10 2012 11:21pm
Boss guide!
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Thank you gentlemen.
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Quote (Bagheera @ Jan 11 2012 01:03am)
I don't think es/vita blizz sorces are that good in my opinion....

surely, it cannot truly fit the fact that this is a char that can svs very well...since IMO' any decent FB sorc has a lot of stack and will easily FHR lock you due to having such minimum es %/mana...Can it play very well against bvc,druids,hdins? Doutbful, by any means if you stick with this build/same gear at all times , you get minimum DR/no chance to sorb/nor to stack truly against other elemental (es for that matter...)

I don't think this build has any advantage at all, sure the word hybrid is being thrown out as some sort that it gives you the right to mana potting therefore it gives you the illusion that you can ''tank''....


Say we take the popular duelers's chars:

BVC,Ghost,Trapper,Nec,Nado Druids,Hdins,Vt,Smiters,WW sins,Cs zons, Bowa zons....

in which of these chars do you truly have the adv?

IMO' going 90+% es is the way to go..you perhaps lose 2k less damage, but atleast you tank more and won't get fhr locked that easily. + For bmanas, you can get unperm ones at 10 a pop on East even less sometimes...

To me going half mana/half vita gets you crippled. The fact that you lose the adv to sorb/dr/stacl/switch gears and you cannot truly tank at all with the es/gotta rely on mana pots. IMO Go either all vita or all mana in these situations.


1. I rarely get locked by FB sorcs. In fact, FB sorcs are some of my easiest opponents.
2. This build does fine with one or two set ups. That's part of the reason she's so great. But your point is valid. In my revised version I will add a section for different set ups as opposed to the examples I suggested based on affordability.
3. Actually, 16 mana pots can get you through a lot. Hits hit hard and drain mana and life. A fireball does 200 damage to me. It does about 600 to my mana. Boom, 1 pot you're golden.
4. 90% ES is a different build which requires minimal resistance and no points in vitality. That is not what this build is about. If you do your homework you will see there is a strong relation between Telekinesis, life, and mana. The 90% ES sorc and my 70% ES sorc are two completely different ballgames.
5. Actually, splitting the life/mana ratio makes it very hard to stun lock you. That's why I repeat throughout the guide how important 86% FHR is.
6. She's pretty stacked as is. Only missing DR. But DR isn't applied to mana. I can take a full BvC whirlwind and then some.

Thank you.
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Feb 21 2012 03:51pm
Nice built

75% Energy Shield with precast =) (memory only, Using normal Cta)

Not sure what lower ES does with FHR, but drinking manapots as GM is nice.

Oh and also : Useing bugtal instead of coh is nice. Is it bm with 70% ES?

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Quote (zmauls @ Feb 3 2012 07:42am)
1. I rarely get locked by FB sorcs. In fact, FB sorcs are some of my easiest opponents.
2. This build does fine with one or two set ups. That's part of the reason she's so great. But your point is valid. In my revised version I will add a section for different set ups as opposed to the examples I suggested based on affordability.
3. Actually, 16 mana pots can get you through a lot. Hits hit hard and drain mana and life. A fireball does 200 damage to me. It does about 600 to my mana. Boom, 1 pot you're golden.
4. 90% ES is a different build which requires minimal resistance and no points in vitality. That is not what this build is about. If you do your homework you will see there is a strong relation between Telekinesis, life, and mana. The 90% ES sorc and my 70% ES sorc are two completely different ballgames.
5. Actually, splitting the life/mana ratio makes it very hard to stun lock you. That's why I repeat throughout the guide how important 86% FHR is.
6. She's pretty stacked as is. Only missing DR. But DR isn't applied to mana. I can take a full BvC whirlwind and then some.

Thank you.


-U HAVE NO FUCKIN CLUE ABOUT DIABLO2 LORD OF DESTRUCTION-
-U HAVE NO FUCKIN CLUE ABOUT PVP-
-U PROBABLY HAVE NEVER DUELED ANY DECENT CHAR SINCE UR STATEMENTS ABOUT FB SORC OR HYBDSINS BEEING EASIEST OPPONENTS ARE LIKE ENORMOUES FAILS-

Now everbody listen: Ask yourself why nobody uses 70-85% es with ~1:1 life/mana ratio? Because it sucks! Es works in pvp only at level of 95%!
U have a lot less mana compared to 95es soso and slower regeneration which makes u fuckin dead whenever u receive strong hit because ur mana will be burned so fast,and
wont regenerate fast enought for outtanking or runing away. Also blizz soso has crappiest regeneration and ability to outtank from every soso builds ('mana-expensive' spells) so i can bet that
if u would ever met decent trap/hybsin U WOULDNT EVEN SCRATCH her.. because u'd be OUT OF MANA all the time..
I will not mention fails in alternative itemsetups or duel tactics... i just want you people to not to make mistake - so dont follow this guide
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