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#91
Dec 4 2011 01:52am
Quote (Voyaging @ 4 Dec 2011 00:08)
Stupid. Block ES sorcs have always been one of BvC's 3 hardest duels, it's sad you have to make a dedicated char just to beat them.


He didn't have to. Some people like to have fun on a game that's over a decade old by trying new things. We don't all have to make cookie-cutter builds to have fun, you know.

I really like the build, but how exactly does the elemental damage from Ravens/Highlords/Grief keep you from dying? **hopes for short answer and not Tommyvv's 48 line calculation**
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#92
Dec 4 2011 01:55am
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He didn't have to. Some people like to have fun on a game that's over a decade old by trying new things. We don't all have to make cookie-cutter builds to have fun, you know.

I really like the build, but how exactly does the elemental damage from Ravens/Highlords/Grief keep you from dying? **hopes for short answer and not Tommyvv's 48 line calculation**


This build is FAR more cookie cutter than a traditional ES Block sorc.

Cookie cutter means EASY to use well. All this does is make it super easy to beat a character they should already have the advantage on.

It's the equivalent of using mass absorb vs an ele character.
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#93
Dec 4 2011 01:59am
Quote (Voyaging @ 4 Dec 2011 02:55)
This build is FAR more cookie cutter than a traditional ES Block sorc.

Cookie cutter means EASY to use well. All this does is make it super easy to beat a character they should already have the advantage on.

It's the equivalent of using mass absorb vs an ele character.


Do you know what a cookie-cutter is and or does? It cuts cookies. It makes them each the same. The term cookie-cutter used in Diablo 2 refers to the similarities between gear choices. It doesn't automatically mean ease of use. If this char is cookie-cutter, then so be it. But, how many of these can you say you've run into? Now compare that number to the number of BvCs and Hdins you see every day.
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#94
Dec 4 2011 02:00am
Quote (Juicy_J @ Dec 4 2011 03:59am)
Do you know what a cookie-cutter is and or does? It cuts cookies. It makes them each the same. The term cookie-cutter used in Diablo 2 refers to the similarities between gear choices. It doesn't automatically mean ease of use. If this char is cookie-cutter, then so be it. But, how many of these can you say you've run into? Now compare that number to the number of BvCs and Hdins you see every day.


Oh. Actually yeah that makes a lot more sense. All the same. I'm an idiot.

But still, the equivalent of using Sorb vs an ele char.
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#95
Dec 4 2011 02:03am
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Oh. Actually yeah that makes a lot more sense. All the same. I'm an idiot.

But still, the equivalent of using Sorb vs an ele char.


True, but this is just a funny way. Anyone can get rising sun/hotspurs/2 dwarfs/stack, but this is just hilarious. The BvCs have been mass sorbing sorcs for too long, imo. It's time they get a taste of their own medicine.
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#96
Dec 4 2011 02:07am
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True, but this is just a funny way. Anyone can get rising sun/hotspurs/2 dwarfs/stack, but this is just hilarious. The BvCs have been mass sorbing sorcs for too long, imo. It's time they get a taste of their own medicine.


Aye, in BM duels this would be funny.

In GM, ES block sorcs are one of the 3 or 4 hardest matchups.
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#97
Dec 4 2011 02:09am
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Aye, in BM duels this would be funny.

In GM, ES block sorcs are  one of the 3 or 4 hardest matchups.


Yeah, they can sometimes be a real pain in the ass, especially with higher end gear. And when the barb is forced to wear gear that doesn't make him tank as well, he can be in some shit. I wanna make this character so that the next time a BvC sorbs my blizz sorc, I can bring in this sorc and laugh in their face.
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#98
Dec 4 2011 07:13am
Quote (Juicy_J @ Dec 4 2011 09:03am)
True, but this is just a funny way. Anyone can get rising sun/hotspurs/2 dwarfs/stack, but this is just hilarious. The BvCs have been mass sorbing sorcs for too long, imo. It's time they get a taste of their own medicine.


I've never seen a bvc do this, maybe you would in pubs, but in pubs EVERYONE sorbs, not just bvc's...

and yea i'd like to try vs this sorc too with a barb :)

Quote (Voyaging @ Dec 4 2011 06:08am)
Stupid. Block ES sorcs have always been one of BvC's 3 hardest duels, it's sad you have to make a dedicated char just to beat them.


its just meant to be a joke, if a barb was actually trying to beat this chara, it would be 10x easier than dueling a normal sorc

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Dec 4 2011 07:25am
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#99
Dec 4 2011 08:51am
Quote (GGnet @ Dec 4 2011 08:28am)
(...) id love to see you duel an actual bvc


I know !

Quote (Voyaging @ Dec 4 2011 09:00am)
Oh. Actually yeah that makes a lot more sense. All the same. I'm an idiot.

But still, the equivalent of using Sorb vs an ele char.


Exactly sir ! That's a total BM char against BvC.



Quote (Jeebus666 @ Dec 4 2011 02:13pm)
I've never seen a bvc do this, maybe you would in pubs, but in pubs EVERYONE sorbs, not just bvc's...

and yea i'd like to try vs this sorc too with a barb :)

its just meant to be a joke, if a barb was actually trying to beat this chara, it would be 10x easier than dueling a normal sorc


True again. Just use angelics.

(or see video)

I'll pm you when I'll be back to 1.13 (sorry for the last time, I'd been very busy and then... I forgot :unsure: and now I'm on old patchs).

Quote (Juicy_J @ Dec 4 2011 08:52am)
He didn't have to. Some people like to have fun on a game that's over a decade old by trying new things. We don't all have to make cookie-cutter builds to have fun, you know.

I really like the build, but how exactly does the elemental damage from Ravens/Highlords/Grief keep you from dying? **hopes for short answer and not Tommyvv's 48 line calculation**


Ty !

In short :

physical is reduced 1/6 (pvp),
then reduced 1/4 (energy shield 75%),
then reduced 1/2 (50%dR),
and at the end you substract 3 times the total MDR (because a Raven/Grief/Highlord uses in the same time fire/cold/light).

With high MDR, nothing remains from a 11~12K critical WW.
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#100
Dec 4 2011 11:35am
Quote (bioshocker @ May 27 2011 01:28pm)
zzzz bro.You might know more than me in d2 to every 1.0001 damage point sorb/but even with 8k es 30k defence u wont tank me.i have at least 30k ar. ill do the damage screen in a monent, but also u wearing 50%dr on ur char with amplify damage will AT LEAST triple my damage, 84%deadly strike ensures the victory on u. Then lvl 46 concentration( 745%ed) +26 might(290%ed)+17 heart of wolverine( 132%ed)+lvl 15 fanaticism(144%ed). Factor in fortitude ed%,strenght ed%, charms, torches, etc. Broooo, not trying to brag ,but if i can down shitty hacking hammerdins with maxblock buffed barb bo/oak druid friend/barb bod hacking windys/any other mass tankage char, i am 100%sure i can win vs u.

Oh and i use 2x ravens 24/7. If it will still hurt,i can flip on resist cold aura, and use thaving potsfor mass cold resists( i can still throw pride on merc for concentration)

Hell if i go and get a combat shrine, thats like 800k-1mil ar and 2 k more damage


good job you can kill someone with conc might how fanat combat shrine while sorbing with cold stack

gj gj
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