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Nov 22 2006 07:25am
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I've got about 12k defense. That's it. Defense isn't really a factor against anything other than perhaps charge or something like that. If your friends barb sucks, it's more than likely he's just not that good with it yet. It's all about practice. But then again, it matters what he sucks against..


Rom, what's the skill layout on your BvC? 14 Leap I'm guessing though, from the defense. Or then you are just pretty high level. My BvC has ~9-10k defense, but he is using a random Scarab Husk Enigma and has 2 base points in Shout so..

The defense is actually a little factor versus a lot of opponents:
wolfs
WWsins
other barbarians
charge
strafe
Zeal
Kicksins

However, most of those can be beaten easily anyways.


lol i have 9.5k def with maxed leap and eni mp 1063 def -.-
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- Hmm well, Mage + 2x Caster ring [which should be Trangs + 2x Caster ring, really] are alright but when you're going for extra DR [I'm guessing you're talking about Mage + rings + Verdungo] that usually means your opponent is physical damage, and most of the time you're talking about physical damage you're going after things with high defense [the exceptions are Wind Druids and Bowzons], and you generally need good AR [Angelics or Hsarus Boots+belt] to hit them. To this end, I don't think it's worth sacrificing some stash space for a Verdungos, unless you're a bit nervous about not having max DR. It's a good combination, but due to stash space, I wouldn't suggest having it. Having 38% DR is usually enough [CoA + Enigma].

- Yes, you need to stack a little light resist. Otherwise those farcast prog using Zons will kill you really easily [you need to have stacked resist if you use Tgods, or Tgods won't do anything]. The same goes for light sorcs. FoH is similar to blizz sorcs, which I'll discuss now.

- Blizz [and cold sorcs in general] require you to stack specifically against them. This is because if you only stack a few items [trangs and FCR rings with 15 cold res on each ring, for example], you'll STILL be in the -100 CR, even including your normal resist stuff [Arreats/Torch/Anni/etc]. You have to either stack a lot and sacrifice something [charms/helm/weapon/etc] or just do what I do and wear 2x Ravens. The absorb doesn't work with the first hit [because absorb heals first, but since you're at full life, you don't get the life you 'heal'], but in general you can tank 3-4 blizzards with 2x Ravens.

- FoH is similar. It's annoying as hell with FoH, since with Cold sorcs you can dodge orbs/blizzards, but FoH is auto-hitting, so you HAVE to stack, or you'll get killed easily. I'd say get a Kiras with an Ort [or an Um, so you can just use that same Kiras against Cold sorcs] and a few life/light res SCs. If you're West NL, then you have access to Rune Loops/Eagle Whorls, which give 62 and 54~ light res, respectively. The majority of FoHers don't have high defense [or even a Smite backup], so you can generally get away with constantly tele WWing them. V/T's or T/V's require a different setup, but then again that's a different topic.

- Note, I originally planned to get like 10x 11light/life resist SCs and some other gear [which is mainly geared for V/T's and T/V's], but since V/T's and the like are rare on West NL, I got lazy. If you fight a Smite/FoHer, you need DR, resists, AND AR [since they usually have good def], so that means you need to rely on SCs for resist. You can use a weapon to give you resist, but then you lose damage. You can also just play without a CoA and use Kiras for resist, but it's up to you. Bottom line: Make sure you have enough light resist with both hell mode and conviction taken into account. Then you can just treat him like a smiter.


verdugo really helps vs good tele smiters, btw what is ur setup vs druids , ravens trangs or draculs fcr rings (second one is alot better but i dont like being frozen)
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Nov 22 2006 12:06pm
My setup vs druids [if it's like a 1v1 vs some guy that I don't like] is pure LL. I use 2x EBotDZ with a total of 41% LL on each of them. :]

Otherwise I use CoA + either of the two combinations you listed. If I feel I'm quick on the reflexes that day, I'll pick Trangs + 2x Ravens so I can tele zerk. If I feel slow or lazy, I use Dracs + FCR rings and just play defensively.
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My setup vs druids [if it's like a 1v1 vs some guy that I don't like] is pure LL. I use 2x EBotDZ with a total of 41% LL on each of them. :]

Otherwise I use CoA + either of the two combinations you listed. If I feel I'm quick on the reflexes that day, I'll pick Trangs + 2x Ravens so I can tele zerk. If I feel slow or lazy, I use Dracs + FCR rings and just play defensively.


berserker vs druid ? buhehe i doubt it work on block ones smile.gif
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Nov 22 2006 01:51pm
If it's a block druid then there's no need to berserk, just small triangle WWs to keep them in constant block/hit lock.
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Nov 26 2006 01:39am
may i ask why +3 in inc speed? 1% frw doesn't seem important enough
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The Inc speed is for your WW speed, i.e. from point A to point B. I believe it also helps with how easily you can desynch your WW's.
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Nov 28 2006 11:20am
Hai up again
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Hai up again


doesnt need to be upped its stickied lol


btw wat do u ahve in ur arreats?
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Nov 28 2006 11:11pm
Oh, it is? ^__________________________________^

I have a 40/15IAS in my Arreats. 40 for the damage, IAS for the extra speed with my widowmaker/zerking.
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