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Jun 17 2005 09:56am
QUOTE (justaddwater @ Jun 17 2005, 01:30 AM)
about that "east must not have stupid rules" i think its stupid how there are rules about "gm" and "bm" who made these rules up anyways??

sorb- you shouldnt of made a sorbable character if you didnt wnat to be sorbed

just no jumping, nking, healing things like that

thats my oppinion anyways

idiots who couldn't stand the wa dueling originally was made the rules so it would be to their favor
nothing is officially gm or bm until blizz announces it
as far as i know blizz only cares for pvm and could give a flying shit if people used 16 full rejuvs in one duel
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Jun 18 2005 07:36am
i think its halarious how rings>whole characters..try to absorb my smite >< ..bm does not exist outside of palapk and placin "go" above your head..ive decided to use a btals instead of enig neways.. : /
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Jun 22 2005 06:15am
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Griefs: For you ladder people, pick up a grief. Honestly, I've never used one (I only play nl) so I cant comment on this. If a ladder player would like to help me out and add their comments (please refrain from using the words 'thundering idiot') I'll be sure to give you credit.


well if you want my comment i'd have to say i believe the wild damage on grief overpowers any mods on other weapons and ladder v/ts are a lot stronger on the melee side. foh is of course easily negated but you cannot underestimate their phys damage. up until grief my non block mass mana 95% es sorc was very viable vs smiters/chargers and v/ts but grief just ended her career there. i recently saw a 5 sock 3 foh 3 convi scepter for trade. seems like a nice damage booster to foh and skill saver on the convi side. in your opinion would a grief in that thing be the ultimate in v/t weapons?
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Jun 22 2005 07:40am
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i recently saw a 5 sock 3 foh 3 convi scepter for trade. seems like a nice damage booster to foh and skill saver on the convi side. in your opinion would a grief in that thing be the ultimate in v/t weapons?


ah nvm, it's neither a sword nor an axe, got it confused with beast socketables
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Jul 1 2005 07:28am
once ladder resets, all v/ts should be using greif/fort, sure you be superior on the melee side, but hell most people only put 1 into convciton and divide the rest into foh/holy shock, its the only way to go, even with just one point into charge, with a fort/greif GG for most casters or anyone with low def period.
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Jul 1 2005 08:16am
if they use grief then they wont need any points in smite and not many in hs so maybeu can make a really good foh to got with a good smite
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Jul 1 2005 09:16am
Togeather, they are obviously not as powerfull as they could be alone, they make probably the best combo in Diablo. They are the muta/ling combo
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Jul 1 2005 05:38pm
it sound good but does it work have you tested it ?
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Jul 26 2005 08:28am
Ok, guyes, here's the dillio. Lately I've been thinking of making a V/t, and I recently noticed you can make Doom out of scepters? If this is the case, this is the way I'd gear my char, I need suggestions.

Doom FearMyWrath_II's Divine Scepter:
3 FoH
3 Conviction
Doom mods

+10%/-10% 29%/15% CoA
Ebugged CoH
Bitter Hold Ring
BK Ring
40/15% Verdungo's
196% Upped HoZ
Bloodfists/20IAS/10CB/20life Heavy Gloves
Mara's?
Ethereal Treks/Shadow Dancers(FHR/Dex)(Str. pending)/Upped Gore Riders
10 Paladin Combats
2 5%Res/5%FHR Charms if I use Treks, 4 5%/5% SCs if Gores, 9 5%Res/20Life if Shadow Dancers
1 20/20/9 Annihilus

Skills:
20 FoH - 46 FoH in all
15 Conviction - 29 in all
15 Fanat - 26 in all
20 Smite - 43 in all
Rest into Holy Shield - 35+ Holy Shield in all

I need opinions on how this build could work out, you guys seem more knowledgeable in this sense, as Hammerdins are my only chars. Do not burn me too badly, I just need some suggestions?

This post was edited by Pornomonkey on Jul 26 2005 08:32am
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Sep 15 2005 09:20pm
very nice guide, cracked me up too wink.gif
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