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Aug 23 2006 10:28pm

Quote (enigmatikk @ Thu, Aug 24 2006, 04:23am)

Quote (forbattlenet @ Thu, Aug 24 2006, 02:18am)

Okay Ive built the din exactly as you posted it here. (Except I have been using KO'd Wiz / Tgods / 10fcr 15 Dex ring)

Merc exactly as you listed it. (Ive used both Tal mask and Dream) he dies in chaos either way..

I tried using the act 3 merc instead, but lower life and just didnt seem as helpful as the act 5 merc.

1) My #1 MAIN problems is that my merc  dies

He has broad sword lawbringer, CoH, and Tal mask / Dream helm. (Both helms die). He is lvl 85

2)
Its been 5 levels or so since I tried fighting the Fire Lords in chaos
without my wiz...... But when I was wearing Hoz, and they have
Conviction.... They lower my Res to below max... So I actually take
damage from them!!!!!

So far using wiz, I have not taken any
dmg from anything in hell hardly... I do about 2k less damage though.
(Not that it matters, I still kill everything easy in a 4 player game
of friends).

3) Do you actually use the Oak Sage from Hoto?
Its cheap to repair.. I was just curious if anyone ever used it? Cant
BO it, so it dies easy / fast.

If you guys notice Gary said for this build to work almost none of the
items on either the merc nor the player are negotiable. To get the
results listed you must follow the guide exactly. I've made this
character ESCL exactly to these specs and it runs great.

so what you're saying is...this only works if we do exactly what he's telling us to? we absolutely have to copy his build from head to toe without making our own personal modifications?
or am I interpreting your words too literally?

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Aug 23 2006 10:30pm

Do what you like with the build but if I were the author of this guide I would hate to have people complaining about the results they're getting from the build when the modified like 1/5 of it.

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Aug 23 2006 10:42pm

Quote (enigmatikk @ Thu, Aug 24 2006, 04:30am)

Do what you like with the build but if I were the author of this guide
I would hate to have people complaining about the results they're
getting from the build when the modified like 1/5 of it.

being open to suggestions is not a bad trait

either way I like the way my hdin solos chaos too, he NEVER dies either and clears chaos before act3 minions in a baal run.

but if you advocate straying from diversity, I'm sorry for offending you

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Aug 24 2006 11:05am

I am using the merc EXACTLY as he posted it, and the merc is dieing a LOT!! Level 85 merc.

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Aug 24 2006 11:39am

Mercs die...

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Aug 26 2006 11:02pm

Quote (enigmatikk @ Thu, Aug 24 2006, 05:39pm)

Mercs die...

Thank you for the extremely helpful spam. ?? Point in your post was...?

Ahh.. to keep your post count up. Got ya......

If you read the guide ... he says his merc dies once per XX runs......

Anyways....................... Im thinking Angels Guardian + Kiras (90 res all) Think that would help?? I dont find the life leach to be to helpful... Do you teleport specifically to keep your merc alive? or do you try to walk more so he can continue attacking (like a smiter doing trist) so he can keep LL ?

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Aug 30 2006 09:23am

Quote (Avar[ice] @ Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 00:42)

Quote (enigmatikk @ Thu, Aug 24 2006, 04:30am)

Do what you like with the build but if I were the author of this guide
I would hate to have people complaining about the results they're
getting from the build when the modified like 1/5 of it.

being open to suggestions is not a bad trait

either way I like the way my hdin solos chaos too, he NEVER dies either and clears chaos before act3 minions in a baal run.

but if you advocate straying from diversity, I'm sorry for offending you

if you want to use rising sun for even more fire absorb be my guest, but i think your overall resists and hammer damage will suffer to greatly for it to be worth it.

Quote (forbattlenet @ Sun, 27 Aug 2006, 01:02)

Quote (enigmatikk @ Thu, Aug 24 2006, 05:39pm)

Mercs die...

when my merc was IM'd, i was still cautious. im not sayin he is invincible to IM.. he IS going to die to it. but its not going to be in 1 or 2 hits. feed him a fat purple once in a while and save yourself 50000 gold. i avoid melee to an extent when he is IM'd. usually it doesnt take long for the oblivs to cast a new curse over it anyway. hope this helps

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Aug 30 2006 01:12pm

Quote (___ @ Wed, Aug 30 2006, 03:23pm)

Quote (Avar[ice] @ Thu, 24 Aug 2006, 00:42)

Quote (enigmatikk @ Thu, Aug 24 2006, 04:30am)

Do what you like with the build but if I were the author of this guide
I would hate to have people complaining about the results they're
getting from the build when the modified like 1/5 of it.

being open to suggestions is not a bad trait

either way I like the way my hdin solos chaos too, he NEVER dies either and clears chaos before act3 minions in a baal run.

but if you advocate straying from diversity, I'm sorry for offending you

if you want to use rising sun for even more fire absorb be my guest, but i
think your overall resists and hammer damage will suffer to greatly for
it to be worth it.

The dwarf star would be useless in my opinion if you wear rising sun

At high levels the amount you heal from rising sun surpasses the damage they do if you have 50+ fire resist.

Still, I see, you do have a good point. And the resists can be made up for with more charms, I'm sure. But of course, inventory room is lost, etc. etc. etc.

And hammer damage would only lose about what, 500 damage from the -2 skills? Eh.

Still a nice guide, I just enjoy being healed by Infector of Souls and other Venoms.

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Sep 1 2006 08:13am

I have some questions:
Why not use Hotspur and Shako Shael vs Shako Raled as u said and Sands?
Why not Trang gloves vs Mages?

BTW very good biuld gz for U!

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Sep 5 2006 12:22pm

Quote (Urbanizator @ Fri, 1 Sep 2006, 10:13)

I have some questions:
Why not use Hotspur and Shako Shael vs Shako Raled as u said and Sands?
Why not Trang gloves vs Mages?

BTW very good biuld gz for U!

for the stats and psn resist (only place you get it)

trangs and mages are basically interchangeable but i see little point in trangs with already heavily stacked cold res via stormshield

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