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Quote (Hendrix2 @ Sat, Jan 31 2009, 02:10pm)
You know that Werebarb have another Fhr than normals barb ? I'm not sure about your breakpoint.
Why don't you use Wizzy omg ? Grief + Wizzy = same frames that Grief + Storm.

Can't you use Eni + Blood craft belt + Storm ber ?
icon_pointr.gif Fhr + More life (something like 1 or 2k more ^^) + Ow (usefull vs sorc)...

Can you pm me your answers please ? wink.gif


yes i have the druids wolf break points in the guide

i used stormshield in this guide because it gets you 35% dr, block and some other useful stats which are pretty useful for melee and pvm, wiz just has 75 res, if you're going to just duel casters then try the tomb reaver build above.

if you used Eni + Blood craft belt + Storm ber, then the build would lose 300 enhanced damage and it only gives you 14 fhr more than dungos, the open wounds and life is nice so you can try it if you want

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Feb 5 2009 12:52pm
bump, check page 9 for pure pvp builds

Pure Uber Guide:

Stash: treachery, cast fade before ubers

Skills:
Iron Skin : 20
Shout : 20
Battle Order : 20
Mastery (depending on what weapon you are using): 20
Natural Resist: 20

Stats:
Enough dexterity for maxblock
Enough strength to wear gear
Rest in vita

Items:
20/15 jewel wolfhowl (or um'd)
Ap fort
Verdungos
um'd stormshield
Last wish pb
1x Angelic ring (if using highlords use bk or wisp)
1x Raven frost
Angelic amulet (or highlords)
Gores (or goblin toe)
Draculs gloves
Weapon switch: dual hoto

Torch
Anni
Max/ar/life charms
4x or 9x fhr small charms with resists
1x fhr grand charm with resists
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Feb 5 2009 02:49pm
i do like ur guide well done

also imo if u cant afford max/ar/lifers, mastery lifers are good, gives max dmg/ar also more resi and more frw all the things wolf barbs would need
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First id like to say this guide was sick i built mine simular to this, while using your guide just tweaked a bit, thanks for this.

When it comes to using an botd in pb, i made one and luckly came out pretty nice 411/15ll so i did 2 ubers in a row and it just seemed like its wasnt doing alot of dmg, so i snagged my ebotdcb off a mule and the dmg to speed ratio was so much betterya i was swinging a bit slow but the dmg was nice, just recently i picked up a lwpb in a trade and decided to try it out, and seeriously the difference is astronomical lw pb all the way for uber imo.

Also correct me if im wrong, when you talk about pvp you grief pb which 100% agree with its an amazing pvp weapon, but you including to say that you had a prefered ias for grief, but as a wolf barb arent you considered a wolf? so if you considered a wolf doesnt the oias not matter? feral abilities only take in account base weapon ias and not added ias?

Thanks again

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Mar 20 2009 09:22am
one thing i'd like to say,

u have a cham'd wolfhowl which makes it so you cannot be frozen so why would you need a ravenfrost in stash for duels against cold chars?

other than that nice guide wink.gif

This post was edited by Shidiot on Mar 20 2009 09:23am
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Quote (Shidiot @ Fri, Mar 20 2009, 03:22pm)
one thing i'd like to say,

u have a cham'd wolfhowl which makes it so you cannot be frozen so why would you need a ravenfrost in stash for duels against cold chars?


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hey ive been reading through your guide and was wondering.. could you dual wield 2 weps in wolf form and get both auras? like a beast and last wish?
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Mar 24 2009 07:14am
you can get them but problem is:

stupid thing to do that because neither of them is a good damage weapon, and lw is useless in ubertristram, compared to other alternatives

all the aura bling does not offer anything if the weapon itself does not deal a good chunk of damage.

@ guide
I will only refer to PvM play and ubers:


man so much wrong information is kinda creepy

1. you canot reach 2 frames with a one hand weapon, same problem that you cannot reach a 2 frame strafe...
the battle net will not allow you to reach that

2. BOTD PB? just a quick question, which idiot told you that one makes BOTD pb`s?

3. cham`ed wolfhowl.. lovely raven is better

4. dungo, you gotta be kidding me
#crede,wilhelm,string,nossi or tg are far better

5. a blockshield on a wolf-shape char... are you actually aware of the horrible blockspeed and chance of a wolf?
if you want a shield, use a non block setup with a lanceguard

6. where are weapons like tr,hone,oath,ribby?

7. highlords all the way for PvM, for ubers one might wanna think of a metalgrid

8. raven+ ml ring or how are you going to get the mana you need?

9. using weapons in the off hand: wizzy, non eth oath or non eth hoto for the charges, fortitude and so on

10 draculs best gloves for PvM?
man are you an idot?
you play a wolfbarb, attack with feral rage and think gthat you need lifetab? please do us all a favor and uninstall the game.

LoH > all


merc: reaper`s mighter > all, ofc

what do you do against PI monsters?

iron skin = not needed imho(okay 1 as prefeq for nat resis)
increased speed= imho not needed ( feral rage)

where are the IAS tables, where is the speedbug


by the way... no barbaarian dies to iron maiden, if the player has got some functioning brain cells between his ears....

it´s called berserk

fool

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Apr 14 2009 01:08pm
Capability of uber tristing approved.

Just finished second UT run, and it didn't take long at all.

All I did was change Grief to Last Wish and used BK & Ravenfrost.
Grief to Last Wish because of the lack of CB, otherwise GG build imo, thx.
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Quote (Xanni @ Fri, Mar 20 2009, 04:14am)
First id like to say this guide was sick i built mine simular to this, while using your guide just tweaked a bit, thanks for this.

When it comes to using an botd in pb, i made one and luckly came out pretty nice 411/15ll so i did 2 ubers in a row and it just seemed like its wasnt doing alot of dmg, so i snagged my ebotdcb off a mule and the dmg to speed ratio was so much betterya i was swinging a bit slow but the dmg was nice, just recently i picked up a lwpb in a trade and decided to try it out, and seeriously the difference is astronomical lw pb all the way for uber imo.

Also correct me if im wrong, when you talk about pvp you grief pb which 100% agree with its an amazing pvp weapon, but you including to say that you had a prefered ias for grief, but as a wolf barb  arent you considered a wolf? so if you considered a wolf doesnt the oias not matter? feral abilities only take in account base weapon ias and not added ias?

Thanks again

know online as Phaim_XRated


oias is off weapon (aka outside ias) ias; aslong as the ias is on the weapon it will work, the 60 ias from botd counts towards your attack speed however if you have 15 ias in your helm it won't

Quote (Ancalagon @ Tue, Mar 24 2009, 01:14pm)
@ guide
I will only refer to PvM play and ubers:


man so much wrong information is kinda creepy

1. you canot reach 2 frames with a one hand weapon, same problem that you cannot reach a 2 frame strafe...
the battle net will not allow you to reach that

2. BOTD PB? just a quick question, which idiot told you that one makes BOTD pb`s?

3. cham`ed wolfhowl.. lovely raven is better

4. dungo, you gotta be kidding me
#crede,wilhelm,string,nossi or tg are far better

5. a blockshield on a wolf-shape char... are you actually aware of the horrible blockspeed and chance of a wolf?
if you want a shield, use a non block setup with a lanceguard

6. where are weapons like tr,hone,oath,ribby?

7. highlords all the way for PvM, for ubers one might wanna think of a metalgrid

8. raven+ ml ring  or how are you going to get the mana you need?

9. using weapons in the off hand: wizzy, non eth oath or non eth hoto for the charges, fortitude and so on

10 draculs best gloves for PvM?
man are you an idot?
you play a wolfbarb, attack with feral rage and think gthat you need lifetab?  please do us all a favor and uninstall the game.

LoH > all


merc: reaper`s mighter > all, ofc

what do you do against PI monsters?

iron skin = not needed imho(okay 1 as prefeq for nat resis)
increased speed= imho not needed ( feral rage)

where are the IAS tables, where is the speedbug


by the way... no barbaarian dies to iron maiden, if the player has got some functioning brain cells between his ears....

it´s called berserk

fool

0/10


I will go through your statements 1 at a time:

1. (about 2 frame ias) Yes i made a mistake because none of the wolfbarb ias tables i could find would work correctly, but it was corrected on either the first or second page.
2. (about botd) I know they're useless I basically said that in the guide, but unless you can find an amazing rare then for GM melee then it is a decent choice.
3. (about cham) Depends on what you're doing, because I made this wolfbarb to do everything I chose to have more ar instead of a bit of res and life or max damage
4. (about belt) Dungos is very useful if you want a chance against melee, the 15% dr helps in pvm too but yeh string is better for, this guide wasn't built just around pvm though
5. (about the shield) Perhaps you didn't read the guide but I said this and that's why it requires a shael for melee, I agree it's nont a great choice but again if you want to be able to do everything then you 'need' the block and dr.
6. (about weapons) I would have added ribcracker but grief is a better choice if you put in the dexterity for mb.
7. (about amulets) Both can be used, whichever one you prefer is your opinion.
8. (about off hand weapons) Sure, you can do that but I made this guide with a shield in mind.
9. (about mana) I never had a problem with mana.
10. (about gloves) Sure laying of hands is probably better, it is nice being almost invincible though.

(about skills) Increased speed is needed to at least get a hit to start feral rage in pvp and iron skin is more than useful against melee characters (althought it is not necassery)

If you look in my guide in my sig it has the required ias tables at the bottom, when I created this guide I could not find a working ias table.

(about iron maiden) You can't use beserk is wolf form and if you do it to avoid IM then you will be out of wolf form most of the time (therefore it wouldn't really be a wolfbarb guide), which is exactly why I focused more on ubers and pvp in the guide as pvm is best left to other characters (although it's possible on a wolfbarb)

This post was edited by NoWhere on Apr 22 2009 07:44am
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