no need for it, all of my legit none glitching features make up for it

he is pro.


edit: lol xD

This post was edited by RedTube on Mar 3 2008 03:45pm

wicked guide might make 1 even tho i always make vita bowas without dex! xD 10/10

I said playing better, not working harder. If you don't know how to play a glass cannon then it doesn't matter how hard you try on the spot ... it requires experience and i don't think there's anyone that can play everything equally good. I suck with ele druids for example and i can't get more than mediocre with it.

You just need max block on switch to hold against Melees!

then just make a pally, that's what everyone else does LOLOLOLOL.

/truth

First I'd like to know how you got it to 3.8 max damage increase per point of dexterity. I mean - Using one dex charm and checking the extra damage got too many other factors which you need to look away from to get a good result.
And as you know, 1% enhanced damage also add an amount of minimum damage - Which you haven't even mentioned. 400% ED I can imagine would give a significant amount of minimum damage increase so that the average damage would get even higher.


The main point of using shield is the 75% chance of avoiding hits!
Not the 35% dr it also gives. Most glass cannons with shield on switch which I've dueled toggles between run and walk in order to get highest block chance possible, I can't see why you would claim not. So yes, it is as effective as I'm making it.
It more sounds like you are underestimating the power of block.



The tangent does not give a 1:1 ratio in that graph, that is a lie. The tangent being 45 degrees have nothing to do with the ratio. Explain more how an equal amount of speed increase is provided per given amount of FRW. The tangent with a linear function always gives an equal amount of increase per given X, all tangent will do that.

Well i added gloves with 20 dexterity. This added 76 dmg to my max.

76/20 = 3.8 max dmg perpt of dex (pretty mind shattering huh?!?)

Keep in mind the amount of dmg you receive is based on the dmg of your bow, the more base dmg your bow has the higher your ratio will be. However, im using a GMB and to my knowlege it has the highest base dmg out of all of the bows in the game.

As far as the min dmg it is barely effected. 20 dex made it go up only 6 dmg. If you'd like to take the time and to recalculate the numbers with the tiny increase have at it! Its not like its going to make much of a difference. As i stated before you are dwelling on insignificant details that wont effect the over all result other than in decimal form.



Well why should i bother factoring the block % into the calulcations when both the Glass Cannon build and the Vita build would be using it. If you read the build you would see that i recommend keeping a ss in your stash for ZvZ duels. I personally switch to ss and cta for bowzon duels. Plus i list it as the ability to receive physical dmg, not from just arrows but from all forms of physical dmg. Not all physical dmg can be blocked, for example smite and tornadoes. In the end its pointless to put it into the calculations and you are once again trying to pick apart a flaw that isn't actually there.


Well the tangent is 45 degree slope and in order for it to be 45 it has to be 1 to 1, anythign else wouldnt be 45 degrees. And a 1 to 1 ration is equal. A slope with ratio lets say 1 to 7 would NOT be equal. See what im gettign at there? Im saying the ratio is equal. While you're trying to point out the fact that if you move 1 unit you would get 7 units in the other direction everytime no matter what. Well durrrr its called a line you idiot, thanks for pointing that out to all of the d2jsp members who havent taken third grade math.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Mar 6 2008 03:16pm

Ok, I see.
Minimum damage didn't do that much extra damage that I thought according to your numbers.


A flaw that isn't actually there?
You completely forgot blocking which is one of the big advantages Glass Cannons have compared to your vita zon. That isn't a flaw - You are trying to mislead us by looking away from this.
Look at your comment: "Why would I bother factoring block..."
Well, why would I bother to look at your life advantage, I mean with probo the life difference isn't that big....
Look how stupid it sounds.


Just look at your comment again: "why would I bother factioring the block.."
You should becouse the shield is half the built of the glass cannon, block makes you much harder to hurt versus certain classes. You use both switch and mainbow with a glass cannon in your gameplay. You don't just use it before the duels as you do with the CTA.
You said that you use SS when ZvZ'ing. Then you are playing with 51% chance to block. A glass cannon will have 75% chance to block. That is a huge difference and advantage even when both are using SS.


Ok, it is 45 degree. I can also see that.
But you haven't explained where the 1 to 1 ratio is.


This is the part I'm unable to understand. What has to be 1 to 1? Which are the two things that is equal?
I sure understand that 1 to 1 is equal but I can't see this 1:1 ratio that you are referring too. Becouse the ratio in the tangent you showed on the XY-graph isn't 1:1.



In my eyes. Yes, my eyes - This comparation is quite wrong and misleading. I'm trying to straighten out the questionmarks I got which you kindly asked us to do:

And for that, you are calling me an idiot..

Vouch that.

If a Glass cannon is play'd right it owns vita builds extremely easily. My cannon does 8.3 K Ga dmg, @ lvl 85. And theres a certain strat you have to develop on every character you duel. You dont just spam multi from 4 screens back, you'll get raped that way. Gotta use your head.

Anyways, nice build for a vita. Nice life / Res/ Fhr. (Dmg blows though )

Looks like it took a while to make however, so good job on actually explaining things and putting time into it.


I dont mean to come out as rude, its just that Im a huge glass cannon fan. Lolz.