9,8k life as a wolf 5.2k life as human...those are rough estimates as i dont have access to the game right now to get the exact numbers...barbs with bows are very hard to kill >.< stacked frw and max block *could* beat it but this would be one of those times where the barb would have to fuck up. Honestly i would probably just end up getting my barb. Though if the barb isnt using teleport stacked frw with 5 range wep would make your barb an easy kill especially if you didnt have the brains to put a shield on switch and swap when i got into range to attack.




not too far from the same...it is POSSIBLE to get 100% perf gear, its just not very likely lol, unless of course youre one of those kids that buys items from a website like half the people that play d2 >.<


This post was edited by xXxS4v4g3xXx on Feb 18 2008 01:55am

this nerd xXxS4v4g3xXx proly says now that wolf>bvc(cba to read topic from 1st page)
dont bother with this pvm'er he dont even have d2 installed
ink tested vs matt on open bnet with 100% perf wolf and was raped nothing to prove here
shapers are jokes for barb simply tri ww around him (important is to not male tight wws ) that way he will miss most of furies unless u fuck up ur ww

this pigshit never met or dueled decent dueler so i think he will make essey on xx sites which will be full of his thorycrafting bullshit, which he ofcourse cannot confirm cuz he is full life dodger

ps. ah ffs dont pm me ur wigger tears next time

This post was edited by Moonlike on Feb 18 2008 04:53am

You're right, I don't have d2 installed, on this computer. I'm not really sure how that effects my knowledge of this situation though. A sure sign that someone doesn't know what they are talking about is excessive insults. Obviously your friend that tested on open bnet(if he even did) either didn't know what he was doing with the fury druid or he used a perfect c/c setup, but it was probably both...You can't tri ww when your opponent has more range than you, well I suppose you could but it wouldn't turn out too well for the barbarian. You know, I'm still waiting for you to tell me how the strategy I stated for fury vs smiter is wrong. You accuse me of "theory crafting" but then fail to produce anything to prove me wrong, this strategy has been vouched on more than one occasion but you just seem to ignore those. I don't really understand how I can possibly dodge you when we are not even on the same realm, but I guess thats just another one of your dumb mistakes. Just because you and your friends aren't experienced enough to used this strategy does not mean it isn't possible, I think there were 4 or 5 people in this forum alone that stated they have used this strategy and it worked for them, and I know a handful of people that have done the same thing.

Edit: I wouldn't have to pm you if you actually gave a decent argument, I mean even Shadow Lad produced a few good points, most of them were wrong but at least he has the intelligence to do more than talk shit. I'm going to bed, try to think of a valid argument before you repost, all you're doing is wasting people's time.

This post was edited by xXxS4v4g3xXx on Feb 18 2008 05:07am

Exactly what I think, too^^

Smiter is the best ofc :S

Yeah, on open I made 100% perf v/t and 5-0'd my m8's 100% perf bvc.

Didn't you lose 5-0 to Koren's barb?

I assume that his char is better than...

haha i think ill jump in to the fray and join the "debate" tehee

i agree with things said on both sides:
If a BVC does perfect clipping all the way through the duel, then a wolf would have no chance at all. but in all honesty i have never ever seen anyone, including top duelers in Europe do that perfectly through a whole duel without mistake. to control perfect range would take a bot.

but okay lets look at a breakdown

Damage: Around even (wolf would do more screen damage but taking in account ww will hit a little more. ie 4 frames, vs 7/4/4/4 frames. if BVC using sheild then damage will be lower than usual too)
AR: Wolf > BVC (by alot)
Defence: BVC > Wolf (by a little)
Block: Wolf > BVC (i am assuming this is just a BVC who slaps on a shield not BVA. i know BVC can get max block with dex gear but then that sacrifices other areas.)
Life: Wolf > BVC

on paper wolf looks like it has massive advantage over BVC but all the advantage is lost to the nature of WW>Fury.
So imho i think over all, the advantages of the Wolf stated above is balanced out by the whirlwind attack

so yes, BVCs probably do have a little advantage vs wolf and should win 60% of time but it defiantly isnt as easy as what some of you guys think

BUT
Rabbies Druids are a whole different topic

No I didn't you pigshit.

What then?