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Jun 29 2011 07:30am
Turning my mulezon into this! :0


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Demanding sticky.

This post was edited by bla_1 on Jun 29 2011 07:38am
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Jun 29 2011 07:55am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 29 2011 01:13pm)
nope because vita sorcs tend to have maxed resistances and much higher HP
but CS is a huuuuuuge boon against ES sorcs, don't underwrite that. A single shot drains 4000+ mana if all bolts connect.
And the formula for mana regen is 1/120 of their max mana per second, multiplied by % mana regen (ie +300% = 4x), so its easy enough to figure out


but yes, ES sorcs will nullify damage by going offscreen for a few seconds. Thats what ES sorcs do. And thats how they win their duels- by trading blows and keeping their mana up and being defensive.
and lots of chars, like bone necros, struggle against that.

But guided arrow is actually the real champ here. In fact, all the damach zons skills are especially good at raping ES sorcs. But heres the thing
ES sorcs win duels by retreating before their mana is broken, and because of ES you can't throw them into FHR via damage to stop them from teleporting away when low- unlike a bone necro holding down spear on a sucker and immobilizing them as they die

But guided arrow has a built in 50% fhr chance due to knockback, and thats what rapes the ES sorcs here. Its very, very easy to chain enough hits in a row to cripple a sorc or outright kill her
ES sorcs often lack FHR entirely, something ridiculous like 10-15 frames for FHR. Add on 6-9 frames for blocking, its very easy to pin down a sorc under a stream of garrows.
So when it rains, its pours. Unlike bone spears, a sorc can't just teleport away and regen- garrows will pin them down and keep interrupting their casts.
Often they'll get away, and thats like. Sometimes they wont. Against me, they'll probably have to deal with chainlocked tele/ga abuse.


But lets face it. CS kills es sorcs in 1 telestomp, I've seen plague clouds 1-hit-kill es sorcs (not just drain them to 1, but kill them in the same cloud), and garrow pins em down. Fury ain't shabby either but you won't win with it alone, since fireball is stronger


all es sosos uses 86 fhr, some 142 break.
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Jun 29 2011 07:58am
Quote (gel87 @ Jun 29 2011 07:55am)
all es sosos uses 86 fhr, some 142 break.


A sorc with a spirit setup dies instantly to a zon, you know
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Jun 29 2011 08:01am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 29 2011 01:58pm)
A sorc with a spirit setup dies instantly to a zon, you know


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Jun 29 2011 08:03am
Quote (Goomshill @ 29 Jun 2011 16:58)
A sorc with a spirit setup dies instantly to a zon, you know


Sorcs should ALWAYS have 86 fhr, be it nb or mb sorc
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Sorcs should ALWAYS have 86 fhr, be it nb or mb sorc


doesn't really matter one way or the other, sorcs still get locked hard from fhr/fbr even at the highest bps
but a spirit sorc against a zon is like an IK barb trying to duel a viving bone necro, its not even a duel
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Jun 29 2011 08:28am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 29 2011 04:06pm)
doesn't really matter one way or the other, sorcs still get locked hard from fhr/fbr even at the highest bps
but a spirit sorc against a zon is like an IK barb trying to duel a viving bone necro, its not even a duel


-i dont think sorc 95%es @ some lil Lightres sorc does get much damage from CS...
-with 95%ES@MB -> Bow=np
-but ... PLAGUE ownz her if she gets poisoned... IF! ^^

This post was edited by seezero on Jun 29 2011 08:28am
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Quote (seezero @ Jun 29 2011 08:28am)
-i dont think sorc 95%es @ some lil Lightres sorc does get much damage from CS...
-with 95%ES@MB -> Bow=np
-but ... PLAGUE ownz her if she gets poisoned... IF! ^^


lightning resist, sorb/etc don't affect energy shield's mana taken. CS can easily take out all of a sorcs mana in a single hit, as well as usually killing her (since thats what happens after that, if she don't have resists/tgods/etc)
but yeah its the zons duel to win easily, due to plague raping es sorcs, cs raping es sorcs, and bow doing a very nice job on them
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Jun 29 2011 04:11pm
Well speaking from experience when you got a well buffed sorc to 1 hp and she has some mdr from viper/bt u can't kill her..

6000 cs on my zon, 1 k after pvp, 250 after 75 res *0,05 for es = 12,5, mdr checks in and fucking heal them. Same for ga, you must actually drain all their mana! At once else she repls so saying they're easy damn no ^^

e: and all cs hits doesn't connect

This post was edited by lifo2 on Jun 29 2011 04:13pm
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Quote (lifo2 @ Jun 29 2011 04:11pm)
Well speaking from experience when you got a well buffed sorc to 1 hp and she has some mdr from viper/bt u can't kill her..

6000 cs on my zon, 1 k after pvp, 250 after 75 res *0,05 for es = 12,5, mdr checks in and fucking heal them. Same for ga, you must actually drain all their mana! At once else she repls so saying they're easy damn no ^^

e: and all cs hits doesn't connect


uh the thing is that CS drains their mana so quickly, down in 1-2 hits, that their MDR can't save them. If you hit them for 6000 damage, they'd need 1000 mdr to negate you after ES is down
CS has the advantage of doing ludicrous amounts of damage when summed up. Against normal people this often isn't fatal because of tgods, which doesn't just give +10 max but heals 480 hp after all things considered or so
but ES subtracts the mana before resists and before absorb, so even if only 1/2 your bolts connect it drains enough mana to pretty much kill a sorc.


I've done it tons in duels. Its not like you want to be chainlocking the soso nonstop- she'll just turn around and lock you with fireball spam. But if you pull it out of nowhere with an unsummon lock, she dies instantly.
Which is particularly easy to accomplish if shes whacked by a few knockback arrows, trying to dodge poison clouds that rape her :)
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