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Nov 13 2009 01:15pm
Quote (tudey @ Nov 12 2009 03:02pm)
they never sticky unless you asslick

They do like to sticky bad guides, thou







This guide covers everything for the build, in pretty specific detail.

Bad guide? No.

Bad build? Based on opinion and skill.

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Nov 13 2009 01:27pm
LOL this guide is so fail.

And the creator of the guide claims he/she is the second person to ever come up with a variant such as this? What a moron

Yes... I was the first person to ever come up with the idea of a frozen orb sorc... o wait.... LOL
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Nov 13 2009 02:19pm
what about using 322s instead of 20l/psn sc's?
Would increase effectiveness of multi/strafe ;o
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How effective is psn in pubby?
Ain't every1 townrunning?
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What's ur phy dmg on this Zon?

If those Q's are answered, just tell me, i'll quickly check pages ;) but atm a very lil bit lazy :O

thx in advance & Nice build.
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Nov 13 2009 02:33pm
Quote (Canadian_Man @ Nov 13 2009 02:27pm)
LOL this guide is so fail.

And the creator of the guide claims he/she is the second person to ever come up with a variant such as this? What a moron

Yes... I was the first person to ever come up with the idea of a frozen orb sorc... o wait.... LOL


The base of this build, yes he would be. But the idea of psn on a bowa, no he isnt the first.

Explain how it fails though, i'd like to hear some theorycrafting.

Quote (CookieCoke @ Nov 13 2009 03:19pm)
what about using 322s instead of 20l/psn sc's?
Would increase effectiveness of multi/strafe ;o
+
How effective is psn in pubby?
Ain't every1 townrunning?
+
What's ur phy dmg on this Zon?

If those Q's are answered, just tell me, i'll quickly check pages ;) but atm a very lil bit lazy :O

thx in advance & Nice build.


no, this build is built around poison as a base, so 175/20's are the ONLY choice, save 451's if u prefered those, but 175/20 > 451

You dont need multi or strafe. Only time multi is used is really for clearing summons, in which case u need almost no ar.

Poison is good in pubs

this zon will do around 1-2k phys dmg, which is good to add in the poison dmg ur doing.
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Nov 13 2009 03:11pm
Yea i figured out reading some pages ;) couldn't wait.
175/20 all the way, clearly.

Ima change my bowzon into a tele one :)
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Nov 13 2009 03:15pm
Poison is good in pubs is an understatement, poison is extremely gay in pubs.
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Nov 13 2009 04:43pm
120/45/20 + 2zon/stat/res amu + cleglaw (more dmg, more slow, less frw)
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2zon/20fcr/30/30 + 2zon/stat/res + kb gloves (gm)
OR
2zon/20fcr/30/30 + cat's + cleglaw (less dmg, more slowm, more frw)

What's your preferable setup for pubby and why?

Thx!
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Nov 15 2009 08:27pm
Quote (Canadian_Man @ Nov 13 2009 02:27pm)
LOL this guide is so fail.

And the creator of the guide claims he/she is the second person to ever come up with a variant such as this? What a moron

Yes... I was the first person to ever come up with the idea of a frozen orb sorc... o wait.... LOL






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Quote (Mattd90 @ Nov 13 2009 03:33pm)
The base of this build, yes he would be. But the idea of psn on a bowa, no he isnt the first.

Explain how it fails though, i'd like to hear some theorycrafting.



no, this build is built around poison as a base, so 175/20's are the ONLY choice, save 451's if u prefered those, but 175/20 > 451

You dont need multi or strafe. Only time multi is used is really for clearing summons, in which case u need almost no ar.

Poison is good in pubs

this zon will do around 1-2k phys dmg, which is good to add in the poison dmg ur doing.




A landed multi is 6k psn and potential open woulds, always spam multi randomly throughout your duels, most zons forget to do this. 1 multi = 6kpsn/6seconds, 400 life over 8 seconds [ow], 700-2000 phys dmg after crit ;[

Poison used to be better, people are getting smarter---but slower. It still rapes, esp when they assume your only damage is psn......

1-2k+ with mat bow 1-3k+ with gmb -- faith



Quote (CookieCoke @ Nov 13 2009 03:19pm)
what about using 322s instead of 20l/psn sc's?
Would increase effectiveness of multi/strafe ;o
+
How effective is psn in pubby?
Ain't every1 townrunning?
+
What's ur phy dmg on this Zon?

If those Q's are answered, just tell me, i'll quickly check pages ;) but atm a very lil bit lazy :O

thx in advance & Nice build.




It doesn't add THAT much ar, actually. And I only use multi and ga, not strafe.

Very effective.

I don't care if they run. Chances are if they ran once, they'll run again and again and again. And really, a town is a win.

1-3k






Quote (Tails chao @ Nov 13 2009 04:15pm)
Poison is good in pubs is an understatement, poison is extremely gay in pubs.




This guy knows.



Quote (CookieCoke @ Nov 13 2009 05:43pm)
120/45/20 + 2zon/stat/res amu + cleglaw  (more dmg, more slow, less frw)
OR
2zon/20fcr/30/30 + 2zon/stat/res + kb gloves  (gm)
OR
2zon/20fcr/30/30 + cat's + cleglaw  (less dmg, more slowm, more frw)

What's your preferable setup for pubby and why?

Thx!



Depends, right now I most oftenly rock a 30frw/20@res/2os 15/15'd circ + cats eye + kb gloves or clegs, w/ the 68 fcr bp and around 200 frw [I like to utilize desynch on telly zon, it maximizes the build imo].

I was never a HUGE fan of 2zon/stat's amulets because I enjoy the equipment versatility ias gives.

I'll use the full 99 fcr set up vs palladins that know nothing but how to charge, and vs necros [only the toughest], and vs people that team me. frw > sorceresses
[I change back and forth from frw-to-fcr builds more often than anything else, just to practice and see what I like best. So BK ring to fcr, frw circ to fcr, and sometimes when I use dungoes to arachs. Next most changed out item are gloves: 2passive/20ias/kb to clegs ;[ ]

I hit 1-3k phys with faith GMB [8fps, more phys]. I also have 70% critical so that 1-3k is more often 2-7k

I use 15ias/15res jewels, but 15ias/40ed jewels can add around 130 max dmg per 40ed. Or maybe it's closer to 100 max dmg. So 200 max dmg added = 400 max dmg after crit.


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