A melee ladder can't ban fury lol. Sounds like mad kid zealers who haven't discovered defense and crushing blow yet.

I agree they shouldn’t have banned them and was disappointed when they followed through with the ban. Here’s the ladder https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=91328821&f=147&o=1900

A page or 2 later you’ll see they updated the pic and allowed classes to no longer allow furies.

Here’s the new ladder people can join https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=93062696&f=147&o=60

This post was edited by dark-soul on Apr 30 2022 10:22am

Pretty funny that a zealer won the last tournament even with fury in it. Old ladders you were lucky to get top 10 with a fury. Zeal should be fine with that being flipped on its head. It's still melee. I'm sorry people are mad, but sometimes a class becomes dominant. Zeal only became dominant because of the uninterruptible bug they introduced after the first 1.10 ladder, and we still let that bugged class on ladders. Fury isn't even bugged. it just works like other classes now.

Also that ladder will become a joke once more serious players are up and running. We'll have a real all classes ladder that doesn't consist of people who are bad at the game.

If anyone thinks they're beating fury with shako/shaft/alma though... lol fury could always beat that even in LoD.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Apr 30 2022 10:28am

Have been doing some work on my damage/attack speed/battle sim sheet for D2R:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dJNjAE4PI6-Fzaguv9R7ErXNI572LLA9znDPSYRoqsU/edit#gid=1417766750

Neat, Ink!

Yeah after seeing more matches take place I think furies are a lot more competitive but they aren’t overpowered to an unfair degree

Thanks for the great work!

Would it be possible to see the reference weapon that you use for each type?

For instance, with an eth non-fools mighty scepter I would assume heaven's light, but the column "IAS on weapon" say 0, while heaven's light has 20 IAS. Same with the phase blade, I would assume you're thinking about a botd (non-eth, 415ed) but the weapon IAS column shows 38 instead of 60.

Am I missing something?

You can edit all the values to test any weapon and setup you want

The pb column is currently a grief, by the way.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on May 12 2022 11:59am

Are edcs now more viable on fury druids or do faster ebotd weapons outperform it?

I think in fury vs fury that ebotdz (4 frame now by default) is nearly impossible to beat until you start attaining 50k fg erep Lo’d fools weapons. And in fury vs zeal or barb, the same goes for EDC. It’s 4 frame now. You can run it with Angelics and hit 81% ds with 40k+ ar easily. Eth Razor’s Edge is also an interesting alternative, and Eth Rune Master can potentially be better than EDC with the right setup.


Of course, grief phase is the best weapon possible at 3 frames, but it’s banned from all the good mannered melee ladders I know of.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on May 27 2022 01:05pm