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Quote (sylvannos @ Sat, 15 Aug 2009, 11:46)
Building a sin around coa means you are pretty much stuck using coa. You can't swap helms easily enough when built around it.

There's also better things you can do with a 20 fcr sin ammy than wear coa lol...


yep you can use dracs for gz lt with dclaw
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Building a sin around coa means you are pretty much stuck using coa. You can't swap helms easily enough when built around it.

There's also better things you can do with a 20 fcr sin ammy than wear coa lol...


such as?

I feel like the only sin on east that wears coa lol....
only thing i switch for is kiras sometimes, but honestly, i like coa over anything else unless i need the extra stack from kiras.

coa is just so godly... bumps you up to next fhr frame, 1 skill which also adds to bo, ez stacked res, ez max dr.

and w/ a godly ammy like mine you don't even have to stat str or anything so its really a great option imo.
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Coa isn't a bad helm, but 50% dr isn't hard to get, neither is stacked res.

Quote (tudey @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 01:46am)
yep you can use dracs for gz lt with dclaw


...or swap spider for a 10 ow belt w/ other mods :bouncy:

...or use mara's.

.08 valk is also very sexy.

Giant skull is also a very cool helm, honestly after trying it out on my ghost (I used to use coa a while ago), I'd rather have that.
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Coa isn't a bad helm, but 50% dr isn't hard to get, neither is stacked res.



...or swap spider for a 10 ow belt w/ other mods :bouncy:

...or use mara's.

.08 valk is also very sexy.

Giant skull is also a very cool helm, honestly after trying it out on my ghost (I used to use coa a while ago), I'd rather have that.


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Quote (Abductor @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 02:44am)
how about visionary > 2 skills? or 2 sockets? my guess is no. your reasoning is biased, you think frw would steal a useful mod, but visionary can do it just as well. ps. 20 res is badass.

just grasp it, visionary sucks, always did, always will. at least for assassins.

How is my reasoning biased? FRW is a suffix, so it must take the place of a suffix. Visionary is a prefix, so it must take the place of a prefix. That's how it works. And yes, 20 res is good, but 4 small charms can make up that 20 res, and the AR gained from visionary is more than you would get from four 20/36 charms.
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Building a sin around coa means you are pretty much stuck using coa. You can't swap helms easily enough when built around it.

There's also better things you can do with a 20 fcr sin ammy than wear coa lol...
I'm not saying CoA is the best, I don't even use it myself. I'm saying that CoA can be pretty good when coupled with a 20 fcr amulet (infact, I argue that a CoA + 20 fcr ammy would improve bui's char).

And no, you're not stuck using CoA. You can just as easily swap helms.
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Quote (KillersDream @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 01:54am)
How is my reasoning biased? FRW is a suffix, so it must take the place of a suffix. Visionary is a prefix, so it must take the place of a prefix. That's how it works. And yes, 20 res is good, but 4 small charms can make up that 20 res, and the AR gained from visionary is more than you would get from four 20/36 charms.
I'm not saying CoA is the best, I don't even use it myself. I'm saying that CoA can be pretty good when coupled with a 20 fcr amulet (infact, I argue that a CoA + 20 fcr ammy would improve bui's char).

And no, you're not stuck using CoA. You can just as easily swap helms.


Ehh.

Coa is useless vs. bone necro and hdin. So you'd prolly need a circlet anyway lol.



^ Not to mention, show me a 20 fcr ammy with those mods.
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Coa isn't a bad helm, but 50% dr isn't hard to get, neither is stacked res.



...or swap spider for a 10 ow belt w/ other mods :bouncy:

...or use mara's.

.08 valk is also very sexy.

Giant skull is also a very cool helm, honestly after trying it out on my ghost (I used to use coa a while ago), I'd rather have that.


ya....but you can't get max dr and 9fps trap laying w/ circ build, unless you pump fade...you can w/ coa build which is what i love most prolly.
honestly 10 extra ow won't make a noticable difference imo, i'd take arach for every situation.
08 valk is fun to fuck around w/ for a 102 setup, but i've tried to think of every possible way to use 08 valk for 65 fcr hybsin, and always ends up being coa or circ is better,
maras's is nice...but you don't get much stats from its...shide is better than that, but i don't like shide at all either,

gskull, hmm..never even thought of that...but on a hybrid? no skills bro....nty, even worse choice than valk, and way worse than coa or circ.
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Quote (sylvannos @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 02:58am)
Ehh.

Coa is useless vs. bone necro and hdin. So you'd prolly need a circlet anyway lol.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/AznMastaBui/Diablo/StormHide.jpg

^ Not to mention, show me a 20 fcr ammy with those mods.


Perhaps you're forgetting that you get 2 extra jewel slots with CoA
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Quote (SymphonicX @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 01:58am)
ya....but you can't get max dr and 9fps trap laying w/ circ build, unless you pump fade...you can w/ coa build which is what i love most prolly.
honestly 10 extra ow won't make a noticable difference imo, i'd take arach for every situation.
08 valk is fun to fuck around w/ for a 102 setup, but i've tried to think of every possible way to use 08 valk for 65 fcr hybsin, and always ends up being coa or circ is better,
maras's is nice...but you don't get much stats from its...shide is better than that, but i don't like shide at all either,

gskull, hmm..never even thought of that...but on a hybrid?  no skills bro....nty, even worse choice than valk, and way worse than coa or circ.


I'd take 2 sin skill 20 fcr circlet over gskull, but when compared to coa, it's a cute helm.

dunno though. Ima ghost player, not a hybrid lol (tired and slightly buzzed too, so my thinking skills aren't #1 atm, or even top 10).

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Quote (KillersDream @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 02:00am)
Perhaps you're forgetting that you get 2 extra jewel slots with CoA


naw i didn't.

knockback is sexy.

This post was edited by sylvannos on Aug 15 2009 03:03am
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Quote (sylvannos @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 04:58am)
Ehh.

Coa is useless vs. bone necro and hdin. So you'd prolly need a circlet anyway lol.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/AznMastaBui/Diablo/StormHide.jpg

^ Not to mention, show me a 20 fcr ammy with those mods.



you don't need the dex on shide, and w/ coa build, you get stacked resists easily w/o any res on ammy...
there are better ammys than a shide.
2/20 w/ nice mods like mine,
or if you wanna do circ build, a very sexy opption is 2sin, 5-10 fcr, mass str, nice res all, then you can wear bk ring instead of fcr ring.

both those are better than shide imo.

and coa bumps you up to next fhr breakpoint, which is always useful, especially vs a bone nec.
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