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Apr 19 2012 09:22am
Quote (Tails chao @ Apr 19 2012 04:20pm)
How much have you experimented using 102 with teleport chains vs Necs? Once I tried it I didn't go back. I think the damage is fine with eth mass ed claws if you can read wsg, and the fcr+shadow makes catching them an absolute joke, not to mention you get hit waaaay less since they can hardly spirit at all.

And yes I agree that you should be able to catch any caster with 65, that's not the point, it's the same with a Trapper where it becomes 100x easier to chase and pressure with 102 (though obviously the damage a wwsin loses is greater than the damage a Trapper loses).


tbh, I didnt really notice the damage difference from 102 to 65 lol -.-
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Apr 19 2012 09:48am
Quote (reyrol @ 19 Apr 2012 16:16)
you had just explained your super-mega-ultra theory of maxed mindblast hybsin rememba dude?
but still i told you griffon was as a good as valk for 102 hybsin and wasnt worth it for what it costed dont troll

the only theorycrafter here is you, this is point is really rolflmao tbh. We test things ingame.

The fact is i duelled your hybsin with my barb and i wiped you twice being over 3/4 life left and you quited game without saying anything cuz ashamed i supose you didnt even answer my 'hi moxer', i had enough, by that time i couldnt beat razors 102 hybsin with barbie. Also ive found several people ingame who has told me about your totally lack of skills, and that what a diference with me etc, both using gg stuff; i can remember now hashahsin (ghost), sore (psn/bow), roman_90 and others.

remember pming me you couldnt beat Sore? oh wait

anyway, you got selfexposed so many times in so many topics, half people in jsp thinking you are retard is the proof i guess, your reputation preceds you right now, and you credibility is zero if you didnt notice.

now im off, my last words to you dear M[o]X i hope you apreciate them.

one last Lolet signed by you, sad i deleted all your pms back then
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=60317289&f=103&o=70



it works very good indeed, at least with high end stuff for good dmg output


depends, but 102 is far superior in tvt and at least way more fun in 1n1s, ofc not best vs everyone


i cant really remember dueling you on a barb
maybe we met in a pub once where i like to troll arround and see how close i can be on an opponent and how i should make my steps so that i can push my agressiveness to the very limit of the situation which end in more hits by the opponent
anyways since i didnt know your identity i dont rly bother

you are a good troll because you arnt even trolling
i think you take shit like way to serious sometimes and i just find it amusing to piss on your feet ^
i believe that im like the only one who joined and plays d2 and jsp for the lulz and not to make a place
idk if im the best i just know how to do my game
jesus ^^
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Apr 19 2012 09:55am
Quote (Jeebus666 @ 19 Apr 2012 16:22)
tbh, I didnt really notice the damage difference from 102 to 65 lol -.-


With 102 I lose about 24% damage for each claw (well technically I personally lose 19%~ since I use Gores for 102 and Dancers for 65... but for the sake of comparison I want to keep the boot choice consistent) which is quite a lot, and that's without factoring in the lower hit rate that 102 gives or the fact that you can use heavier claws with 65. It's just that you do so much damage anyway and I find that I hit them more in a duel with increased mobility.

This post was edited by Tails chao on Apr 19 2012 10:00am
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Apr 19 2012 09:56am
Quote (reyrol @ Apr 19 2012 11:16am)
you had just explained your super-mega-ultra theory of maxed mindblast hybsin rememba dude?
but still i told you griffon was as a good as valk for 102 hybsin and wasnt worth it for what it costed dont troll

the only theorycrafter here is you, this is point is really rolflmao tbh. We test things ingame.

The fact is i duelled your hybsin with my barb and i wiped you twice being over 3/4 life left and you quited game without saying anything cuz ashamed i supose you didnt even answer my 'hi moxer', i had enough, by that time i couldnt beat razors 102 hybsin with barbie. Also ive found several people ingame who has told me about your totally lack of skills, and that what a diference with me etc, both using gg stuff; i can remember now hashahsin (ghost), sore (psn/bow), roman_90 and others.

remember pming me you couldnt beat Sore? oh wait

anyway, you got selfexposed so many times in so many topics, half people in jsp thinking you are retard is the proof i guess, your reputation preceds you right now, and you credibility is zero if you didnt notice.

now im off, my last words to you dear M[o]X i hope you apreciate them.

one last Lolet signed by you, sad i deleted all your pms back then
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=60317289&f=103&o=70



it works very good indeed, at least with high end stuff for good dmg output


depends, but 102 is far superior in tvt and at least way more fun in 1n1s, ofc not best vs everyone


Hybrids can use 65fcr and a wisp va trapper. Trapper can't sorb back cuz they would lose 102

65hybrid with wisp at 4.2kww and 8k+ traps vs trapper at 102 and 12k traps and no max dr win easily goes to hybrid
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Apr 19 2012 10:01am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Apr 19 2012 04:56pm)
Hybrids can use 65fcr and a wisp va trapper. Trapper can't sorb back cuz they would lose 102

65hybrid with wisp at 4.2kww and 8k+ traps vs trapper at 102 and 12k traps and no max dr win easily goes to hybrid


no

65 fc hybsin won't be able to do shit vs a 102 max mb trapper
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Apr 19 2012 10:02am
Quote (Razor @ 19 Apr 2012 19:01)
no

65 fc hybsin won't be able to do shit vs a 102 max mb trapper


so you're saying 102 hybrid>trapper?
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Apr 19 2012 10:02am
Quote (Razor @ Apr 19 2012 12:01pm)
no

65 fc hybsin won't be able to do shit vs a 102 max mb trapper


Shall we duel to test this out? Priv realm?
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Apr 19 2012 10:03am
Quote (Razor @ 19 Apr 2012 17:01)
no

65 fc hybsin won't be able to do shit vs a 102 max mb trapper


i guess when you create a lock and kick in you can make up for the trap dmg
i believe that east can use wisp + lo and that makes up for alot of hits giving the hybrid actually even on the paper an advantage


Quote (Razor @ 19 Apr 2012 17:05)
no

102 fc @ hybsin just increases the CHANCE of winning vs a trapper
65 fc is pretty much an autofail vs trappers


we cant use wisp on eu according to the rules so for us its no deal to not use raven as well and go with a fcr ring and lo on griffon
east has different rules which allow more sorb on the 65 fcr setup and we just havnt got that option
its better because of the huge tankability

This post was edited by MoXeR on Apr 19 2012 10:08am
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Apr 19 2012 10:05am
Quote (tudey @ Apr 19 2012 05:02pm)
so you're saying 102 hybrid>trapper?


no

102 fc @ hybsin just increases the CHANCE of winning vs a trapper
65 fc is pretty much an autofail vs trappers
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Apr 19 2012 10:09am
Duel me then

I will make my hybrid on 65fcr and max fire/lite res with burst of speed to wsg 4.2kww and 8k traps and wisp

Vs a trapper that is forced to not sorb else give up valuable speed. And forced to use fade so u can't
Wsg back. 102/86/12kls/max mb/whatever

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Apr 19 2012 10:10am
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