Quote (Whammi @ Jun 26 2011 01:14pm)
Coulden't you use windforce for the KB instead of faith ?
You wont loose MASS dmg, and GA damage really isen't that inportant, as u said, 90% of the time they're at 1 life
Or would u loose way too much ias?
KB matters more on lightning fury than on guided arrow, but still makes or breaks G-A. But you get KB from your gloves- 20% ias kb / +2 java and resists crafts.
Now if there was some conceivable bow option with KB like windforce (wf is not, as I'll show in a sec), it still doesn't provide KB to your javelins
But assuming you had *also* a godly rare javelin setup with knockback, lets say 40% ias 450% ed ethereal repairing +4 skills mat sticks with knockback, then you could drop the kb on your gloves
But you still don't really benefit there. It means you could use say, rare gloves with 20% ias and stats/resists and get a few extra mods, but thats not convincing a tradeoff.
You could use other crafts, getting extra crushing blow, but CB is utter shit, on ranged and with poison and so on.
But it could also open you up to use trangs gloves. But then you'd supposedly need 20% ias made up, which would have to come by switching your crafted amulet for a highlords
In which case you gain +25% poison damage, but you lose +3 skills, tons of +resists, life, stats. And frankly, with CS and Fury, +3 skills matters a heck of a lot more (well +2 zon, +2 java instead of +1 all skills/cta)
So thats a bad setup even if it worked. But it doesn't work. Windforce deals a hell of a lot of damage, its true, but it shoots very, very slowly.
And on a pure bowazon I'd *almost* agree with some WF setups (its still king in PvM), but anything less than 8 FPA is a real tragedy here- and I'd definitely grab 7 FPA if I could, its just too big a sacrifice for it
so faith shadow bow is still the best way to go. With the same IAS setup as I have, a windforce would shoot at a pathetic 10 FPA, and thats assuming you put in a 40/15 jewel.
So in terms of raw DPS:
Faith: 1216 average damage at 8 FPA
Windforce: 1092 average damage at 10 FPA
See, the thing here is that a damach zon has no %enhanced damage items, and guided arrow adds very little. A pure bowazon would get her damage from fortitude and 40/15 jewels.
So the +288% enhanced damage on faith, as well as the +120 fire damage, actually make it deal more damage on here than a windforce.
On a bowazon with tons of +% ed, windforce easily deals more- but here the windforce only has your dexterity and +50% on guided arrow to boost it- +257% overall at level 99- less than the fanaticism on faith alone.
So theres no comparison. You need knockback gloves anyway, and faith deals more damage, and hits faster, so its silly. Even if WF did more damage, faith would still be way better, even if WF's dps was higher
You still are using it mostly for putting people into FHR via knockback, not to damage them. It interrupts peoples teleports. And for killing people at 1 or low hp; damage don't matter. So speed is everything\
its always good to check these sorts of things, though!
This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 26 2011 03:43pm
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