real nice guide, i wonder does it work great in pVM also?
since im looking for great pvm guide

It's a nice concept but there's a few flaws imo.

1: Absolutely NO MENTION of the Faith Shadow Bow build (or diamond for some), it's especially appealing for a vita variant since it lets them keep 7 frames for mobility while freeing up gear slots for dungos, coa etc.

2: No partial dex option AT ALL? I understand it's a zon designed for high life, but even casters opt to go MB at times. As a zon, you gain the same benefits to them but also benefit from increased damage and the fact that you don't even have to give up Spirit's highly useful fhr for it. Not to mention you lack teleport as a way of movement, which max block casters do have. At the very least, I feel all zons should have enough dex for mb.

3: Dueling strategies consist of too much "heh easy" and not describing why it's easy, and some of them are practically like you've never even dueled a good variant (trapper, nec, windy, barb etc). You've also missed Ghost which is easily one of the hardest duels for you.

This post was edited by Tails chao on Oct 6 2009 11:35am

1: Diamond bow is discussed later on, try somewhere around pages 60-70 i think

2: If you want MB go for it, i rarely use my shield and felt it wasnt necessary. Plus it depends what level you are. Lower levels will have a easier time maxing it, the higher you go the more dex you need and the lower the % of block.

If you want enigma on a zon make a teleporting zon, she has no fcr and it would be useless especially since zons have terrible fcr break points.

3: They are plenty detailed and is just used to give people new to the Vitazon a general idea of their oponents. The guide is already extremely long winded, i dont need 10 more pages of dueling strategies. You can figure it out yourself by playing the game, thats the whole idea!

You should really get d2pkay and sign on once in a while. But ive further changed my setup, and it just simply dominates.

8030 coa
Fort
Shadow bow faith
cats eye
20 ias/kb/dual stat glove
raven
sexy dual stat ring with res/+min dmg
war travs (i did the math and found out instead of using sex rare boots, travs give me so much more balanced and higher damage. If i need the res, i take out enough 32020s and swap in some 20/5's... that way if i face a char that doesnt require res, then i wont have the unecessary res the boots would give)
cta/ss/spirit/450 ed eth javs

as for the belt, ive found that dungos is a bit unnecessary. When ever i need dr, i just slap on ss, and depending on who i duel, the 15 dr from the coa + 35 from ss on switch serves me well enough for when i need it.
What i use is a sexy crafted 8-10% ow belt with 30 str/80 life that has a little res. I get more life, and that 8-10% ow does save me a bit from casters and es sorc's who like to play l8z.

this guide makes me wanna make one... how long does it take you to solo baal in hell?

I'm not seeing how you max resists..

20 Anni + 20 Torch + 30 Fort + 15 Faith + 30 Coa = 115.

So you need 12x 20/5res sc's to max res?

I know you have gspurs but they don't have fire resist.

Using Gspurs you would need 6x 20/11FireRes Sc's, 4x 20/11LightRes Sc's, and 2x 20/11ColdRes Sc's to max Resists..

So either way you have to have 12x Less 32020s to max resists correct?

You can't add anya in because if you die then your 30 res short from max.

Also, how do you have 3777 life using 3/20/5frw sc's?

I plan on making this zon soon, so i need help on inventory, I have to use 12x 20/5 sc's to max resists, so how many 3/20/5's do i use and still keep 3.5k+ life by sacrificing 32020's for more frw?

5k Guided Arrow is going to be hard to obtain by using 12x 20/5's for max resists too..

1: Yeah, there's absolutely no question that GMB gives more damage. I'm aware of this, my logic is that being able to shoot at 7 fpa allows you to retain mobility while sacrificing some damage, allowing you to avoid more hits and be able to fire more arrows over time. Isn't that similar to the whole concept behind this build?

Also, Shadow>Diamond imo and even more-so on a vita zon, considering you'll shoot way more arrows over time to get more consistent damage than a GC would while retaining higher damage.

2: I think MB is a necessity in some duels, and yes I do go for it lol but that's irrelevant since it's a guide and I think you should outline different options at least for people to mix and match their preferences. It makes duels vs hybrids and barbs much easier, and ghosts possible to defeat. Also if you play east it let's you use ias monarch on swap vs necs who decrep you.

3: Good people will innovate their own strats and ways to duel, indeed, but most good people will follow a similar guideline on how to approach a duel because it's been proven to work. Any new player will find a duel much easier if they know how to utilise walking effectively vs sorcs, if they know how to wsg well and when a certain build has a huge opening etc.

This post was edited by Tails chao on Oct 22 2009 07:16am

Is it possible to use 3/15+/3 frw scs instead of 3/15+/5's? Due to the impossibility of finding 3/15+/5's on East :[
Also, in the guide you only listed 30x small charms, that's 7x free spaces.
lolwut?

This post was edited by iceydicey on Oct 22 2009 06:17pm

how about orbers? any good strategy vs em? sm1 pm me if got good idea on duelin em;]