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Apr 19 2012 02:19am
Quote (reyrol @ 19 Apr 2012 01:10)
but str bugging isnt mentioned in the guide anyway


a 102 fcr ultra far ww str bug synch ghost has always been the worst nightmare for me
and i think i can speak for everyone here when i say that exactly this is the argument that makes 102 fcr so good
you just synch on your ultra long ww's and noone will ever be able to predict your next step
thats autowin



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Apr 19 2012 06:05am
you need pvpskills to put desynch into use vs the oponents it can be usefull against, sadly youll never get that knowledge :(
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Quote (reyrol @ 19 Apr 2012 13:05)
you need pvpskills to put desynch into use vs the oponents it can be usefull against, sadly youll never get that knowledge :(


that comments suits the picture that i have of you in my mind
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Apr 19 2012 06:54am
Quote (MoXeR @ Apr 19 2012 09:19am)
a 102 fcr ultra far ww  str bug synch ghost has always been the worst nightmare for me
and i think i can speak for everyone here when i say that exactly this is the argument that makes 102 fcr so good
you just synch on your ultra long ww's and noone will  ever be able to predict your next step
thats autowin


Oh, I love sarcasm^^^^

Quote (MoXeR @ Apr 19 2012 01:38pm)
that comments suits the picture that i have of you in my mind


No reason to get offensive.
I mean did I ever pick on you that your old hybsin (with your xxk ish gear including zb chaos and some of the "realms sin claws" you called them) got massively raped by Roman_90's 102 fc hybsin (5-1) ?
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Quote (Razor @ 19 Apr 2012 13:54)
Oh, I love sarcasm^^^^



No reason to get offensive.
I mean did I ever pick on you that your old hybsin (with your xxk ish gear including zb chaos and some of the "realms sin claws" you called them) got massively raped by Roman_90's 102 fc hybsin (5-1) ?


he is basically a trapper and you know how exciting trapper vs hybrid is
i didnt play serious because i just didnt give a fuck to play it trap v trap from the weak point
besides thats like a year ago lol
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Quote (MoXeR @ Apr 19 2012 02:00pm)
he is basically a trapper and you know how exciting trapper vs hybrid is
i didnt play serious because i just didnt give a fuck to play it trap v trap from the weak point
besides thats like a year ago lol


yes, he was a trap based hybsin but that doesn't make him a trapper :huh: since 1 pt mb =/= max mb

and I clearly beat him with my more ww based hybsin which reaches a trap dmg of just 7.5k @ rare fools and smth like 9k @ magic 2 sox fools but just cuz I used 102 fc - it feels a LOT more comfortable to face other hybsins/ghosts with 102 fc and you're doing better with it than using 65 fc
so there's no point in picking on a 102 fc setup

I've convinced every hybsin to use 102 fc
may the ghost players test a 102 fc setup on their ghosts and decide whether it's good or not

This post was edited by Razor on Apr 19 2012 07:15am
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Quote (Razor @ 19 Apr 2012 14:14)
yes, he was a trap based hybsin but that doesn't make him a trapper  :huh:  since 1 pt mb =/= max mb

and I clearly beat him with my more ww based hybsin which reaches a trap dmg of just 7.5k @ rare fools and smth like 9k @ magic 2 sox fools but just cuz I used 102 fc - it feels a LOT more comfortable to face other hybsins/ghosts with 102 fc and you're doing better with it than using 65 fc
so there's no point in picking on a 102 fc setup

I've convinced every hybsin to use 102 fc
may the ghost players test a 102 fc setup on their ghosts and decide whether it's good or not


Sun Oct 23 2011 19:40:24 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit) Sent -28,800.00 (28,890.00 -> 90.00) to HardBase (16,500.00 -> 45,300.00) Perm valk 08 128 def

-_-

7fhr 30ed 9 dex 60ar>

i can remember when reyrol pmed me about my fg count and what i bought
he responded as if i was going to make a trapper and that 28.8 s really op for valky and blah blah
anyways since you two are sticking your heads together when you theorycraft i believe i was the one who did make 102 mainstream
and y
my merc now actually holds a griffon lo vs trappers (not back in the days )

Quote (Razor @ 19 Apr 2012 13:54)
Oh, I love sarcasm^^^^


;)

This post was edited by MoXeR on Apr 19 2012 07:35am
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I personally believe 102 fcr is inferior to 65 fcr ghost in any just about any possible matchup. The damage lost simply does not make up for the unnecessary speed gained. With 65 fcr you should be able to catch and evade any caster.
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Quote (MoXeR @ 19 Apr 2012 14:31)
Sun Oct 23 2011 19:40:24 GMT+0200 (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit) Sent -28,800.00 (28,890.00 -> 90.00) to HardBase (16,500.00 -> 45,300.00) Perm valk 08 128 def

-_-

7fhr 30ed 9 dex 60ar>

i can remember when reyrol pmed me about my fg count and what i bought
he responded as if i was going to make a trapper and that 28.8 s really op for valky and blah blah
anyways since you two are sticking your heads together when you theorycraft i believe i was the one who did make 102 mainstream
and y
my merc now actually holds a griffon lo vs trappers (not back in the days )



;)

you had just explained your super-mega-ultra theory of maxed mindblast hybsin rememba dude?
but still i told you griffon was as a good as valk for 102 hybsin and wasnt worth it for what it costed dont troll

the only theorycrafter here is you, this is point is really rolflmao tbh. We test things ingame.

The fact is i duelled your hybsin with my barb and i wiped you twice being over 3/4 life left and you quited game without saying anything cuz ashamed i supose you didnt even answer my 'hi moxer', i had enough, by that time i couldnt beat razors 102 hybsin with barbie. Also ive found several people ingame who has told me about your totally lack of skills, and that what a diference with me etc, both using gg stuff; i can remember now hashahsin (ghost), sore (psn/bow), roman_90 and others.

remember pming me you couldnt beat Sore? oh wait

anyway, you got selfexposed so many times in so many topics, half people in jsp thinking you are retard is the proof i guess, your reputation preceds you right now, and you credibility is zero if you didnt notice.

now im off, my last words to you dear M[o]X i hope you apreciate them.

one last Lolet signed by you, sad i deleted all your pms back then
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=60317289&f=103&o=70


Quote (Razor @ 19 Apr 2012 14:14)
I've convinced every hybsin to use 102 fc
may the ghost players test a 102 fc setup on their ghosts and decide whether it's good or not

it works very good indeed, at least with high end stuff for good dmg output

Quote (Decarnate @ 19 Apr 2012 15:45)
I personally believe 102 fcr is inferior to 65 fcr ghost in any just about any possible matchup.  The damage lost simply does not make up for the unnecessary speed gained.  With 65 fcr you should be able to catch and evade any caster.

depends, but 102 is far superior in tvt and at least way more fun in 1n1s, ofc not best vs everyone

This post was edited by reyrol on Apr 19 2012 09:26am
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Apr 19 2012 09:20am
Quote (Decarnate @ 19 Apr 2012 15:45)
I personally believe 102 fcr is inferior to 65 fcr ghost in any just about any possible matchup.  The damage lost simply does not make up for the unnecessary speed gained.  With 65 fcr you should be able to catch and evade any caster.


How much have you experimented using 102 with teleport chains vs Necs? Once I tried it I didn't go back. I think the damage is fine with eth mass ed claws if you can read wsg, and the fcr+shadow makes catching them an absolute joke, not to mention you get hit waaaay less since they can hardly spirit at all.

And yes I agree that you should be able to catch any caster with 65, that's not the point, it's the same with a Trapper but you don't see many rolling around with 65 fcr anymore. It just becomes 100x easier to chase and pressure with 102 (though obviously I do acknowledge that the damage a wwsin loses is greater than the damage a Trapper loses).

This post was edited by Tails chao on Apr 19 2012 09:25am
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