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Quote (tudey @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 01:13am)
frw=good for afk in traps and run around


I was thinking more of drive bys BUT YEA THAT TOO!
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Aug 15 2009 02:17am
Quote (Bryant @ Sat, 15 Aug 2009, 11:16)
I was thinking more of drive bys BUT YEA THAT TOO!


eZZZ

bos whirl+afk in traps>all
maybe add offscreen whirl too

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Quote (Bryant @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 02:10am)
Exactly why this discussion is pointless. You don't realize how useful FRW is.
Pen and paper (so to speak) can only get you so far.

Who are you to know how useful I consider FRW? Bui seems to value his visionary circlet more anyways, so I compared the CoA setup to that. (not to mention he only mentions a visionary circlet in this guide)

Quote (Abductor @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 02:03am)
frw is heaps more useful that visionary. visionary is a waste of good mod.

Except frw is a suffix and visionary is a prefix, so they aren't mutually exclusive. Visionary is only a "waste" if you consider 20 all res to be better than the AR boost.

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Quote (KillersDream @ Sat, 15 Aug 2009, 11:17)
Who are you to know how useful I consider FRW? Bui seems to value his visionary circlet more anyways, so I compared the CoA setup to that.


Except frw is a suffix and visionary is a prefix, so they aren't mutually exclusive. Visionary is only a "waste" if you consider 20 all res to be better than the AR boost.


yep but its a lot harder to find a good circlet with all the needed stats AND visionary
oh well, guess its not a problem for some of us...
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yep but its a lot harder to find a good circlet with all the needed stats AND visionary
oh well, guess its not a problem for some of us...


One of the problems with FRW on a circlet is you must sacrifice either +30 str or +60 life in order to have it.
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One of the problems with FRW on a circlet is you must sacrifice either +30 str or +60 life in order to have it.


would you just stop talking about the absolute perfect circlet that's possible?
its next to impossible to find a perfect circlet like that and if you do find someone selling one, it will cost a LOT

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Quote (tudey @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 02:22am)
would you just stop talking about the absolute perfect circlet possible?
its next to impossible to find a perfect circlet like that and if you do, it will cost a LOT

My point is that suffixes are generally good mods, so the FRW does come at a price.

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Quote (KillersDream @ Sat, 15 Aug 2009, 11:22)
My point is that suffixes are generally good mods, so the FRW does come at a price.


so does visionary (maybe not in a perfect situation, but such thing is near non-existant at bnet anyway)
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Quote (tudey @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 01:22am)
would you just stop talking about the absolute perfect circlet possible?
its next to impossible to find a perfect circlet like that and if you do, it will cost a LOT


I said that already but he insist upon using perfect items for examples.

Quote (KillersDream @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 01:17am)
Who are you to know how useful I consider FRW? Bui seems to value his visionary circlet more anyways, so I compared the CoA setup to that. (not to mention he only mentions a visionary circlet in this guide)


Except frw is a suffix and visionary is a prefix, so they aren't mutually exclusive. Visionary is only a "waste" if you consider 20 all res to be better than the AR boost.


You seem to be ignoring FRW a lot that's why I figure you don't know how useful it is.
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Quote (tudey @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 02:24am)
so does visionary (maybe not in a perfect situation, but such thing is near non-existant at bnet anyway)
I've already mentioned that visionary is a prefix. The biggest thing you give up is 20 all res.
Quote (Bryant @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 02:24am)
I said that already but he insist upon using perfect items for examples.
I insist? I was merely providing an example where a coa + fcr ammy setup is arguably better than bui's current setup.
Quote (Bryant @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 02:24am)
You seem to be ignoring FRW a lot that's why I figure you don't know how useful it is.
It's not that I'm ignoring it, it's just that bui doesn't mention it in the guide and his ideal char doesn't use it, so I chose to use his visionary circlet for the comparison.
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