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Aug 15 2009 12:05am
Quote (KillersDream @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 11:03pm)
Yes... and I'm saying that a CoA could make his sin better if he has the right FCR amulet


And he said it wouldn't.
So did I.

Let's just go with "we have our own preference for builds" and leave it at that k? This theorycrafting is hurting my head -_-
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Aug 15 2009 12:11am
Quote (Bryant @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 12:05am)
And he said it wouldn't.
So did I.

Let's just go with "we have our own preference for builds" and leave it at that k? This theorycrafting is hurting my head -_-


Well I think if he used the coa and ammy I suggested, it would result in a better sin. I would have to think he would agree if he were to actually look at the stats. I understand that everyone has their own preference, but I notice a lot of people find something good that works and they start to ignore different ideas. Saying things like "I would never use an FCR amulet" and "CoA is a bad choice" without fully investigating the possibilities won't help you advance.
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Aug 15 2009 12:12am
I'll do a full thing tomorrow mehbe..
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Aug 15 2009 12:13am
Quote (KillersDream @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 11:11pm)
Well I think if he used the coa and ammy I suggested, it would result in a better sin. I would have to think he would agree if he were to actually look at the stats. I understand that everyone has their own preference, but I notice a lot of people find something good that works and they start to ignore different ideas. Saying things like "I would never use an FCR amulet" and "CoA is a bad choice" without fully investigating the possibilities won't help you advance.


You don't take into account DS, FRW, and visionary. Those are all mods that a sin loves. Those are mods you would lose by going CoA/FCR amulet.
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Aug 15 2009 12:25am
Quote (Bryant @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 12:13am)
You don't take into account DS, FRW, and visionary. Those are all mods that a sin loves. Those are mods you would lose by going CoA/FCR amulet.


I think we're not talking about the exact same thing. Bui's sin can be seen here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=31890444&f=103
He uses shide, so the DS isn't of entirely relevant here.
He'll lose:
Around 1.1k ar
+1 sin skills

He'll gain:
an FHR breakpoint (or if he typically uses 48 fhr, he would gain around 140 life)
7 skills that can be used for synergies

Personally, I prefer 48 fhr at all times, though I understand preferences can vary. Even if you (or he) argues that the cons outweigh the pros, you have to admit that CoA + FCR amulet is nothing to slouch at (as I think this shows).

This post was edited by KillersDream on Aug 15 2009 12:28am
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Aug 15 2009 12:38am
Quote (KillersDream @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 11:25pm)
I think we're not talking about the exact same thing. Bui's sin can be seen here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=31890444&f=103
He uses shide, so the DS isn't of entirely relevant here.
He'll lose:
Around 1.1k ar
+1 sin skills

He'll gain:
an FHR breakpoint (or if he typically uses 48 fhr, he would gain around 140 life)
7 skills that can be used for synergies

Personally, I prefer 48 fhr at all times, though I understand preferences can vary. Even if you (or he) argues that the cons outweigh the pros, you have to admit that CoA + FCR amulet is nothing to slouch at (as I think this shows).


I know what his sin uses.
DS isn't entirely relevant but he still has a visionary and FRW circ.
I'd change the FHR on his sin too, but he insists on using just 27.
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Aug 15 2009 01:59am
Quote (Bryant @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 12:38am)
DS isn't entirely relevant but he still has a visionary and FRW circ.
Yeah, visionary is included in those numbers. I didn't include a separate comparison for his FRW circlet, as the usefulness of FRW can't really be quantified.
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Aug 15 2009 02:03am
Quote (KillersDream @ Sat, 15 Aug 2009, 10:59)
Yeah, visionary is included in those numbers. I didn't include a separate comparison for his FRW circlet, as the usefulness of FRW can't really be quantified.


frw is heaps more useful that visionary. visionary is a waste of good mod.
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Aug 15 2009 02:10am
Quote (KillersDream @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 12:59am)
Yeah, visionary is included in those numbers. I didn't include a separate comparison for his FRW circlet, as the usefulness of FRW can't really be quantified.


Exactly why this discussion is pointless. You don't realize how useful FRW is.
Pen and paper (so to speak) can only get you so far.
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Aug 15 2009 02:13am
frw=good for afk in traps and run around
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