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Jan 21 2022 05:45pm
Shape Shifting Skills

Werewolf

Tooltip updated to now display Casting Delay
Changed how attack speed is determined while transformed as a Werewolf. Attack speeds while transformed should match attack speeds while untransformed (enhanced by the Werewolf's increased attack speed).
Rabies

Attack Rating bonus increased from +7% to +10% per level
Poison Creeper synergy increased from 18% to 20%
Fury

Attack Rating bonus increased from +7% to +10% per level
Werebear

Tooltip updated to now display Casting Delay
Changed how attack speed is determined while transformed as a Werebear. Attack speeds while transformed should match attack speeds while untransformed (enhanced by the Werebear's increased attack speed).
Maul

Damage bonus per level increased from 20% to 30%
Attack Rating bonus increased from +20% to +40% baseline, and +10% to +15% per level
Tooltip Stun value will now properly cap at 10 seconds, which follows the core game's Stun duration cap
Shock Wave

Maul synergy increased from 5% to 10%
Fire Claws

Damage increased by 75%
Removed synergy from Fissure
Removed synergy from Volcano

does the attack speed change mean that off gear ias now affect wolf and bears attack speed? If off gear ias now affects these forms, then this is a massive buff as it opens up so many options for weapons.

This post was edited by Tarisus on Jan 21 2022 05:50pm
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Jan 21 2022 10:38pm
Quote (Tarisus @ Jan 21 2022 05:45pm)
Shape Shifting Skills

Werewolf

Tooltip updated to now display Casting Delay
Changed how attack speed is determined while transformed as a Werewolf. Attack speeds while transformed should match attack speeds while untransformed (enhanced by the Werewolf's increased attack speed).
Rabies

Attack Rating bonus increased from +7% to +10% per level
Poison Creeper synergy increased from 18% to 20%
Fury

Attack Rating bonus increased from +7% to +10% per level
Werebear

Tooltip updated to now display Casting Delay
Changed how attack speed is determined while transformed as a Werebear. Attack speeds while transformed should match attack speeds while untransformed (enhanced by the Werebear's increased attack speed).
Maul

Damage bonus per level increased from 20% to 30%
Attack Rating bonus increased from +20% to +40% baseline, and +10% to +15% per level
Tooltip Stun value will now properly cap at 10 seconds, which follows the core game's Stun duration cap
Shock Wave

Maul synergy increased from 5% to 10%
Fire Claws

Damage increased by 75%
Removed synergy from Fissure
Removed synergy from Volcano

does the attack speed change mean that off gear ias now affect wolf and bears attack speed? If off gear ias now affects these forms, then this is a massive buff as it opens up so many options for weapons.


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Quote (Tarisus @ Jan 21 2022 03:45pm)
Shape Shifting Skills

Werewolf

Tooltip updated to now display Casting Delay
Changed how attack speed is determined while transformed as a Werewolf. Attack speeds while transformed should match attack speeds while untransformed (enhanced by the Werewolf's increased attack speed).
Rabies

Attack Rating bonus increased from +7% to +10% per level
Poison Creeper synergy increased from 18% to 20%
Fury

Attack Rating bonus increased from +7% to +10% per level
Werebear

Tooltip updated to now display Casting Delay
Changed how attack speed is determined while transformed as a Werebear. Attack speeds while transformed should match attack speeds while untransformed (enhanced by the Werebear's increased attack speed).
Maul

Damage bonus per level increased from 20% to 30%
Attack Rating bonus increased from +20% to +40% baseline, and +10% to +15% per level
Tooltip Stun value will now properly cap at 10 seconds, which follows the core game's Stun duration cap
Shock Wave

Maul synergy increased from 5% to 10%
Fire Claws

Damage increased by 75%
Removed synergy from Fissure
Removed synergy from Volcano

does the attack speed change mean that off gear ias now affect wolf and bears attack speed? If off gear ias now affects these forms, then this is a massive buff as it opens up so many options for weapons.


I am also still waiting to hear if anyone knows what PTR patch notes mean here. It sounds like IAS will be calculated the same way for druids whether or not they are in shapeshift form but what exactly does that mean? So they get IAS from all gear? Right?
that is how I'm interpreting this..

This post was edited by Koston on Jan 22 2022 03:54pm
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Quote (gel87 @ Dec 16 2021 05:33am)
Correct :)



Hi, gel. See above conversation. Do we know what tables to use to calculate human form Druid attack breakpoints with fury skill?
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Quote (Koston @ Jan 23 2022 05:53am)
I am also still waiting to hear if anyone knows what PTR patch notes mean here. It sounds like IAS will be calculated the same way for druids whether or not they are in shapeshift form but what exactly does that mean? So they get IAS from all gear? Right?
that is how I'm interpreting this..



Two possibilities.

First, the off gear ias now counts as on weapon ias and we still use the same wolf breakpoints. Thus this is a huge buff as it opens a ton of options to hit 4frames.

Second, everything now is calculated from human form, meaning break points will be different for Fury in wolf vs Fury in human. This could be messy but I doubt this is the case though. It is easier to edit old formulas than introduce new ones.

This post was edited by Tarisus on Jan 22 2022 09:23pm
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Quote (Tarisus @ Jan 23 2022 04:18am)
Two possibilities.

First, the off gear ias now counts as on weapon ias and we still use the same wolf breakpoints. Thus this is a huge buff as it opens a ton of options to hit 4frames.

Second, everything now is calculated from human form, meaning break points will be different for Fury in wolf vs Fury in human. This could be messy but I doubt this is the case though. It is easier to edit old formulas than introduce new ones.


I would assume first version as well.

But the patch note was very weak on information.
Actually hard to know, i was just thinking about how fast u can swarm volcano+fissure+moulten+firestorm combi. Cause all had delays, they just dont delay other skills xD
Im not home atm, but i might try this PTR later

This post was edited by gel87 on Jan 23 2022 06:12am
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Quote (gel87 @ Jan 23 2022 04:09am)
I would assume first version as well.

But the patch note was very weak on information.
Actually hard to know, i was just thinking about how fast u can swarm volcano+fissure+moulten+firestorm combi. Cause all had delays, they just dont delay other skills xD
Im not home atm, but i might try this PTR later


I really want to get earth shifter to 5 frame with all that armageddon skill damage. Let's hope it's the first.
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Jan 24 2022 06:23pm
Waiting with bated breath for testing results here tomorrow while I'm working ><
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Anyone been able to do some testing around this?

e/ Thought the PTR came out today but guess I am not sure?

This post was edited by Koston on Jan 25 2022 02:11pm
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Quote (Koston @ Jan 25 2022 12:10pm)
Anyone been able to do some testing around this?

e/ Thought the PTR came out today but guess I am not sure?



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