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Aug 14 2009 10:45pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 11:32pm)
coa is gay. the whole point of a circlet is to free up the ammy slot for either a shide or a highlords (both of which are better than coa build). try to stay away from coa if possible, its not THAT hard to find a decent circlet and to use a coa you would require a good 2sin/fcr ammy anyways.... which can be quite costly. so you might as well go with a circlet

shako is decent vs like ghost sins if you have gclaws because you can practically out hit them already. throw on the traps and its almost a guaranteed win (considering you dont play stupid) but i use circlet once in a while vs a smart ghost who knows how to play in and out well. honestly.... every char build i write up has gear swaps for pretty much every situation. so just use common sense and use what when its need


yeah I did my math and now am 100% with u and bryant coa is a retarded idea on a sin who can ez achieve 50dr with 2xber and nigma. w/o pts wasted in fade. with this though I should be recieving 26dr from fade can one of you confirm this as same for you?
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Aug 14 2009 11:22pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 10:32pm)
coa is gay. the whole point of a circlet is to free up the ammy slot for either a shide or a highlords

COA is a nice helm if you're unable to get a godly circlet and you happen to have a decent 15fcr amulet, especially if you like high fhr to accommodate your playing style. You can hit 86 fhr easily and it is quite useful vs other assassins. The res is also welcomed.

On a somewhat related note, I personally dislike storm hide. Depending on your items, there should be no need for str and dex on an amulet. It's good for welfare and cookie cutter builds, but it is nothing amazing. A good crafted 20 fcr amu allows you the ability to use a good 10% ow belt. A rare 10 fcr amu lets you try out different ring setups. Hell, even a rare ammy with no FCR can beat storm hide because it could have more res.
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Aug 14 2009 11:31pm
Quote (KillersDream @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 10:22pm)
COA is a nice helm if you're unable to get a godly circlet and you happen to have a decent 15fcr amulet, especially if you like high fhr to accommodate your playing style. You can hit 86 fhr easily and it is quite useful vs other assassins. The res is also welcomed.

On a somewhat related note, I personally dislike storm hide. Depending on your items, there should be no need for str and dex on an amulet. It's good for welfare and cookie cutter builds, but it is nothing amazing. A good crafted 20 fcr amu allows you the ability to use a good 10% ow belt. A rare 10 fcr amu lets you try out different ring setups. Hell, even a rare ammy with no FCR can beat storm hide because it could have more res.


Shide isn't as bad as you say. Using it means you don't have to worry about getting lots of str or dex on ring/circlet. You shouldn't use more than 1 FCR ring on your sin since you NEED rfrost. I would never use a FCR ammy on my sins. Personally if I was in his position I'd use highlords instead of Shide but not a FCR ammy.
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Aug 14 2009 11:33pm
Quote (Bryant @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 01:31am)
Shide isn't as bad as you say. Using it means you don't have to worry about getting lots of str or dex on ring/circlet. You shouldn't use more than 1 FCR ring on your sin since you NEED rfrost. I would never use a FCR ammy on my sins. Personally if I was in his position I'd use highlords instead of Shide but not a FCR ammy.


i agree with this completely. except i like shide xD

but deff highlords > fcr ammy

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 14 2009 11:34pm
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 10:33pm)
i agree with this completely


Except the highlords part :D

Oh pfft fuck your edit -_-

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Quote (Bryant @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 11:31pm)
Shide isn't as bad as you say. Using it means you don't have to worry about getting lots of str or dex on ring/circlet. You shouldn't use more than 1 FCR ring on your sin since you NEED rfrost. I would never use a FCR ammy on my sins. Personally if I was in his position I'd use highlords instead of Shide but not a FCR ammy.


I'm not saying shide is bad, I just think people overvalue it.

In his position you'd use highlords instead of an FCR amulet? You prefer 45 fcr + higlords over 65 fcr + fcr ammy? It depends on play style I guess.
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Aug 14 2009 11:35pm
Quote (KillersDream @ Sat, Aug 15 2009, 01:34am)
I'm not saying shide is bad, I just think people overvalue it.

In his position you'd use highlords instead of an FCR amulet? You prefer 45 fcr + higlords over 65 fcr + fcr ammy? It depends on play style I guess.


um no.... highlords + circlet = 65.... that way you get ar + 2sins + 1 to all + ias + deadly stike + etc...

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 14 2009 11:35pm
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Quote (KillersDream @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 10:34pm)
I'm not saying shide is bad, I just think people overvalue it.

In his position you'd use highlords instead of an FCR amulet? You prefer 45 fcr + higlords over 65 fcr + fcr ammy? It depends on play style I guess.


Where did you get 45 FCR? He's using 65 FCR with Shide...
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 11:33pm)
i agree with this completely. except i like shide xD

but deff highlords > fcr ammy


If you think shide > highlords (i'm not sure if you believe this), then you should also believe a good fcr ammy > highlords imo.

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Quote (Bryant @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 11:35pm)
Where did you get 45 FCR? He's using 65 FCR with Shide...

Then there is no need to consider an fcr amulet, so I don't see why you pointed it out. I mentioned fcr amulets because COA was mentioned.

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Aug 14 2009 11:37pm
Quote (KillersDream @ Fri, Aug 14 2009, 10:35pm)
If you think shide > highlords (i'm not sure if you believe this), then you should also believe a good fcr ammy > highlords imo.

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Then there is no need to consider an fcr amulet, so I don't see why you pointed it out. I mentioned fcr amulets because COA was mentioned.


o-O
We both said we don't like to use CoA, which means we're NOT using it.
Why would you think we're using CoA + FCR amulet?
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