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Jun 4 2021 06:20pm
Quote (gel87 @ Jun 4 2021 10:34am)
This is very precise but you should round down base dmg.
All min: 35,65 = 35
All max: 236,25 = 236

(35 + 236)/2 = 135,5 <-- here u can have decimal, since its average dmg.


Also, dno who wrote it earlier in topic, but amp cannot be seen as ed%. Its a factor for itself. Way more power full. Amp also affect cb, which makes it epic:
Forexample:
EnemyRemainingHp/6 * (1-(DR%/100))

Average dmg * (1+(double%/100)) * (1-(DR%/100))

DR% would be -100% when a 0%DR monster is amped.
It would be -50 if a 50% dr monster is amped.


thx for letting me know this,
yes I directly copied the amp 200% one from earlier topic that s1 made about Grief dmg calculation, u are right I think he just want to use other reference and comparison to show the crazy effect.
also good to know amp dmg boost CB effect too, gave me more reason to stick on Atma amulet
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Jun 4 2021 08:49pm
Quote (Ironboar @ Jun 4 2021 05:07pm)
Yes that's Y I mentioned "for PVM" at the beginning, :rofl:
it got no shield first, even use the AR build, it can kill no fury or other wolf barb in duel, cuz they all use Stormshield + godly efool pb, or Grief (for BM), or white PB socket w/ Shaels + 40/15,
for my experience so far, I only use this build (BM duel) killed these guys:

    sorc(I got lots of trash frw sc on us east and put them),
    wolf druid with 2-handed wp (tomb reaver),
    bear druid (they used grief or something I didn't remember)
    zon(lightning, glass?)

but I use the same build (without any melee charms) dueled with 4k ar, tomb reaver (top dmg + 2x45-15 + zod), tested 5 times, each time I got killed first but he only left 100~200 life too (I'm 6k only that time, he is 9k+++)


my bad typo, "dueled with 40k+ fury druid", not 4k :wallbash:
Supplement 6 - 6xEth Über vid

did it again today, really painful this time



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Next time I will record str-glitch Eth CB Death doing CBaal runs, ancient test, trav, Über.
and retry Azurewrath (Ber'd) vs Über.
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Jun 4 2021 11:00pm
Quote (Ironboar @ 5 Jun 2021 02:11)
Still the PB one u showed me or other heavier base?


Yes, the same sword, the one with 10dex. Now i really don't have any idea how this work :rofl:

Quote (gel87 @ 5 Jun 2021 00:12)
Mate, could you try to see what happens with this:

Grief colossus sword (10wsm) - put over gloves
Pb 100ias (-30wsm) - put over boots


Damn, i don't have any grief cb. I'm testing @bnet. Yesterday was too late and didn't have much time.
I also tested azurewrath (+7 att) and it worked, but if GoD (+10dex) works, any +dex should work as it is added AFTER you can wear the main weapon thanks to +9dex jwl in bug pb, or so i think.
There is still so much we don't know about this, we are going to have fun for days :rofl:
Now i'm trying to get a jwl 9str 9dex -15req to see how things go with str bug.
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Jun 5 2021 12:10am
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Yes, the same sword, the one with 10dex. Now i really don't have any idea how this work

+10dex hydrid pb right? its interesting, could u pm or post points, gears setup?
I mean if any pb works like the "main wp bug steps" I mentioned in supplement 3, then it would be crazier.

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Damn, i don't have any grief cb. I'm testing @bnet. Yesterday was too late and didn't have much time.
I also tested azurewrath (+7 att) and it worked, but if GoD (+10dex) works, any +dex should work as it is added AFTER you can wear the main weapon thanks to +9dex jwl in bug pb, or so i think.
There is still so much we don't know about this, we are going to have fun for days :rofl:
Now i'm trying to get a jwl 9str 9dex -15req to see how things go with str bug.


that's right we can still have fun on this build for days b4 proceed to next, I'm gonna test eth CB Death str glitch on Uber later too, used it on single player but don't know how it will perform on Bnet Uber (same as non eth LW CB)

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Jun 5 2021 12:24am
Quote (Ironboar @ 5 Jun 2021 08:10)
+10dex hydrid pb right? its interesting, could u pm or post points, gears setup?
I mean if any pb works like the "main wp bug steps" I mentioned in supplement 3, then it would be crazier.




The rest are forty higlord amu, laying of hands, string of ears, gore rider, raven, bk. Charms are ~ 10max 70ar 40life and some crap scs 5@, ar...

This post was edited by cantero on Jun 5 2021 12:25am
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https://i.imgur.com/0stpduX.png

The rest are higlord amu, laying of hands, string of ears, gore rider, raven, bk. Charms are ~ 10max 70ar 40life and some crap scs 5@, ar...


I see, that's interesting, 146-10 = 136, so the hybrid actually can equip with itself,
what about more dex points? like 1 ~ 10 more, have u tried that?

let me try Lawbringer (+10dex) on single player now, let's see if the curse can be triggered.

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Jun 5 2021 12:37am
Quote (Ironboar @ 5 Jun 2021 08:27)
I see, that's interesting, 146-10 = 136, so the hybrid actually can equip with itself,
what about more dex points? like 1 ~ 10 more, have u tried that?


Yes, i can put first bug shael'd pb, then GoD.
Morph into wolf
I attack fast
Remove bug shael'd pb
GoD is still blue as you can use it.
I attack slow.
Put back shael bug pb
I attack slow.
Push W so i swap weapons (to two hotos)
Push W so i swap weapons (to bug pb and GoD)
I attack fast.

I think i could add 8 more dex points, until i have 135 dex. If i added 1 more then i would have 136 and bug wouldn't work.

I can easy see that i'm attacking with GoD as i leech mana with it (and do a ton of dmg).

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Jun 5 2021 12:50am
Quote (cantero @ Jun 4 2021 11:37pm)
Yes, i can put first bug shael'd pb, then GoD.
Morph into wolf
I attack fast
Remove bug shael'd pb
GoD is still blue as you can use it.
I attack slow.
Put back shael bug pb
I attack slow.
Push W so i swap weapons (to two hotos)
Push W so i swap weapons (to bug pb and GoD)
I attack fast.

I think i could add 8 more dex points, until i have 135 dex. If i added 1 more then i would have 136 and bug wouldn't work.

I can easy see that i'm attacking with GoD as i leech mana with it (and do a ton of dmg).


Man, I think I found the reason, I mean ur GoD bring this build more forward:
when I remember a year ago I tried Lawbringer on this build, the curse triggered frequently, but I thought because its worked like smite which is wrong (everyone know it's wrong but I was newbie back then)
now I'm using it again, like urs, my point from 136 to 146, and yes, frequent trigger curse means, the wolf still use glitch pb speed and attack with main wp identified by Feral Rage.

I guess here's the reason (based on page 3 my supplement of the bug detail):
Glitch PB's "-15 requirement" mod makes it can be wear immediately, <wp that equip 1stly, identified as main wp>
other things like lawbring or ur hybrid is pure 136 base without "- 15% requirement", so no matter + dex mods or not, it will be equipped secondly, but since it's above gloves <Feral use that as main>,

so this bug will still works, I think I made mistake on Azurewrath part,
lmk what u guys think


PS:
Yes if ur char per se hit 136 dex points (w/o dex glitch pb), then char can wear it himself, 1st main & 2nd main would be same hand, bug won't exist anymore
ur this hybrid PB 20%CB made it better than my Bnet one, damn

This post was edited by Ironboar on Jun 5 2021 12:57am
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Jun 5 2021 01:10am
Yep, grief is broken powefull. But grief of destruction is retarded good for pvm, 20%CB and mana leech. You can't ask for more :D

Now i bring bad news.
Tested with last wish, as it is easier to see slower attack than with grief. While being in wolf form you can attack fast (bugged) with feral rage, but as soon as you attack with a normal attack you attack slow. So the bug works only with feral rage. That means that you can NOT use this bug in bear form.
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Quote (Ironboar @ Jun 5 2021 08:50am)
Man, I think I found the reason, I mean ur GoD bring this build more forward:
when I remember a year ago I tried Lawbringer on this build, the curse triggered frequently, but I thought because its worked like smite which is wrong (everyone know it's wrong but I was newbie back then)
now I'm using it again, like urs, my point from 136 to 146, and yes, frequent trigger curse means, the wolf still use glitch pb speed and attack with main wp identified by Feral Rage.

I guess here's the reason (based on page 3 my supplement of the bug detail):
Glitch PB's "-15 requirement" mod makes it can be wear immediately, <wp that equip 1stly, identified as main wp>
other things like lawbring or ur hybrid is pure 136 base without "- 15% requirement", so no matter + dex mods or not, it will be equipped secondly, but since it's above gloves <Feral use that as main>,
so this bug will still works, I think I made mistake on Azurewrath part,

lmk what u guys think


I think ur right.
They patched auto wsm bug.
The way they did it was to put wep and shield/wep back in slot every time you wsg. But i dont know exactly how, because it seems to work here... XD
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