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Nov 18 2019 04:35am
Okay, lets say i used this:
Pelt, 2 dudu, 3armageddon, 3 grizzly, 3 volcano, 2 soc with dual facet, preferable 30single res and 10fhr base.
Hoto + SOP
Bug belt (dropping the arach since i have good craft ammu)
2/19/59life/20@ ammu, (a 2/5-10fcr/str/life/20@ ammu would be better)
30frw/10fhr/35light, cold, fire/25pldr
magefists
EoD scarab
Soj / Wisp
Raven / soj
30/-30 x 2 on switch? Cta stash? Or maby LR wand + SOP

20/20/25 torch
20/20 annie
5 x 45 summons sks
4 x ele 45
10 x 20/5@

What dmg would this beast have?

Add Bramble + eth infi or Eth pride + andy's act 2 might merc for bm.

Skillings:
20 firestorm
20 moutlen
20 fissure
20 base volcano
20 grizzly
4 HoW
1 cyclone armor

Staff mods:
3grizzly
3armageddon
3volcano
1 fire skills

all skills:
19

Hard to use calculator when staffmods / facets / +1 fire dmg skills etc... xD

Dmg Volcano / Fissure / Amrageddon on hoto/sop side and on +50/-50 side? :
Dmg grizzly: ?

This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 18 2019 04:46am
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Nov 18 2019 07:46am
assuming you're pre-BOing that would get;
hoto side: 46 volcano, 43 fissure, 26 geddon, 46 grizzly, 27 how (no bc on how) with +10/-10 fire
and on facet side: 41 volcano, 38 fissure (keeping 26 geddon) with +60/-60

that gives 9237 grizzly (cast on hoto side, would deal the same on either side)
on hoto side you'd deal 1085 phys + 1327 fire volcano (2412) and 4484 fissure, and 6333 fire + 185 physical geddon (6518) + 784 fire dps all with -10% fire resist
on facet side you'd deal 915 phys + 1604 fire volcano (2519) and 5474 fissure, and 9212 fire + 185 physical geddon (9397) + 1140 fire dps all with -60% fire resist
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Nov 18 2019 08:23am
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 18 2019 02:46pm)
assuming you're pre-BOing that would get;
hoto side: 46 volcano, 43 fissure, 26 geddon, 46 grizzly, 27 how (no bc on how) with +10/-10 fire
and on facet side: 41 volcano, 38 fissure (keeping 26 geddon) with +60/-60

that gives 9237 grizzly (cast on hoto side, would deal the same on either side)
on hoto side you'd deal 1085 phys + 1327 fire volcano (2412) and 4484 fissure, and 6333 fire + 185 physical geddon (6518) + 784 fire dps all with -10% fire resist
on facet side you'd deal 915 phys + 1604 fire volcano (2519) and 5474 fissure, and 9212 fire + 185 physical geddon (9397) + 1140 fire dps all with -60% fire resist


Thanks a lot :)

Seems fun, before i got my shapers i had 8 x ele 45 on my druid, had quite a decent dmg then as well, but had like zero grizzly dmg since i had skilled FC, but i did not have the ias for FC, should have tried grizzly instead then xD Also did not have armageddon pelt.
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Tried to build. Not good. Can't teleport immediately after Cano
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Quote (Vampiryn @ Nov 18 2019 03:44pm)
Tried to build. Not good. Can't teleport immediately after Cano


what ping u got?

Ill try on asgard as well when i get home^^ Or well, would not be correct, they removed the delay towards teleport there since ele dudu use this in fpk to make people selfsync xD

This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 18 2019 09:04am
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would be cool to make a hybrid with this helm on asgard:

2dudu
3grizzly
3armageddon
3fire claw
visio
10fhr
2 soc
1 x facet or BER or LO or Shael and cham

Wiz gloves

shadows or other fhr boots

2/20/30str/20dex ammu

bug belt

2 sojs or bk (wisp and raven availeble)

EoD scarab

Hoto and/or doom + SOP //// War Schyte 4shael/2 x 15ias/100ar

4 x 45 lifer ele
5 x 45 lifers summon
10 x 20/5@ or 322s (1 12 fhr skille + 1 5fhr sc for 99fhr equip on 2 handed side)

10base fc
1 base shockwave
1 base lycan
1 base werebear
1 how/oak
18 grizzly
20 fissure
20 volcano
20 moulten
10 firestorm
1 cyclone armor


= 10332 fire dmg on FC
= ca. 8,8k grizzly?
= 6,6k ish armageddon + 7xx dps
= 3,4k fissure
= 2,2k ish volcano
Facet not checked.

That build got an fast closeup attack as well^^
If u bother you go eth giant tresher with 2 x 40ed/15ias and 4 shaels and use 322s for adittional average 906 physical dmg on FC as well.

This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 18 2019 09:40am
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Nov 18 2019 11:17am
I'm still thinking a hybrid of;
+2 druid / +3 grizzly / +3 fissure / (+3 how, +3 volcano or +3 geddon?) pelt with 2x facets, 9x summoning skillers, cta in stash, 50/50 on swap
then a mix of either 19 how / 1 geddon, 10/10, or 1/19- or maybe 20 how with geddon pelt and either 4 boulder or 1 shockwave
the idea either way being to trade physical volcano damage for grizzly damage and rely more on facet swap for fissure

I could retool my escnl shaman into that (albeit level 92) with nothing but a pelt & charms change
I feel like trying to get volcano up to the 1/16 FHR threshold is going to be impossible on non-facet side against most non-glass opponents, even some non-DR builds will exceed it with max boulder, so I could just drop the volcano damage down to minimal, using it just for the blocking interrupt or breaking enemy resist with its fire damage up from geddon synergy on facet side which will FHR people. Thus allowing perhaps higher grizzly, fissure and volcano damage from between the two sides. Even a lower damage fissure will hit much, much harder against most people when using facet swaps. It would however be weaker to stacked resist players and would miss out on the FHR threshold for volcano against lower life non-DR casters. I do love locking and killing glass (trash) sorcs in 1 cast.

The 19 how / 1 geddon +3 how pelt setup hits 13.2k grizzly, 5.5k facet fissure (4.5k hoto), 4.9k facet geddon (3.4k hoto) and 1.3k fire+0.2k phys facet volcano (1.1k fire+0.3k phys hoto)
the 1 how / 19 geddon +3 volcano pelt setup hits 11.3k grizzly, 5.5k fissure (4.5k hoto), 11.9k facet geddon (8.2k hoto) and 2.4k fire+0.3k phys facet volcano (2.0k fire+0.3k phys hoto)
the other permutations are somewhere inbetween (10/10, or 19/1 with geddon pelt and skill sw or boulder).

geddon while teleporting around is pretty eh, unreliable. Sometimes you land hits if someone is chasing you during teleports, but its not like when a druid is syncing around with someone namelock charging him. And I'd feel pretty unlikely to connect geddon hits while on facet side, its more likely to be a random connection during teleports with hoto out (and only half the time would it be out if wsging around). If that 19 points in geddon is only hitting for ~400 hp on the hoto side connection its probably not worth losing 16% of bear damage. But it can hit for as much as 1700 against a 75 unstacked resist char if facet side is out. And that 2.7k volcano on facet side could actually stunlock some reasonable builds- against unstacked 50 dr / 75 resist it would be ~367 hp = 5900 hp for 37.5% fhr threshhold, 2900 for 75%. If someone is skimping their fire stack it would absolutely buttfuck them, and even a slow ass 40% fcr teleport followup without swapping could finish them with a grizzly strike when they're getting blown out like that. OTOH, if they are fire stacking, ~127 hp won't fhr anyone.

while that colossal 13200 grizzly monster cock is tempting, I think having the option to swap to facets and namelock a volcano to 'hurr durr ur dead' anyone who isn't stacking would be great.
still begs the question of whether its worth going back down to 5/4 or 4/5 charms and pimping that volcano out even more, which would lower grizzly back to ~9k.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Nov 18 2019 11:19am
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Nov 18 2019 11:50am
Quote (gel87 @ Nov 18 2019 09:03am)
what ping u got?

Ill try on asgard as well when i get home^^ Or well, would not be correct, they removed the delay towards teleport there since ele dudu use this in fpk to make people selfsync xD


50-79 ping
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Nov 18 2019 10:56pm
Nice guide, I'll feature this.
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Nov 18 2019 11:59pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 18 2019 06:17pm)


while that colossal 13200 grizzly monster cock is tempting...


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