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With Gulli and Gores you have 115% Ds. I would switch gores to war traveler for raw damage increase. Another options switching gulli to arreats. You will still have 100% DS. And 65% cb is ok for regular pvm, but you gain + skills, stats, resists. It can gives more damage too.
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Nov 12 2018 12:01am
Quote (GoreRider @ Nov 12 2018 01:50am)
With Gulli and Gores you have 115% Ds. I would switch gores to war traveler for raw damage increase. Another options switching gulli to arreats. You will still have 100% DS. And 65% cb is ok for regular pvm, but you gain + skills, stats, resists. It can gives more damage too.


to each his own but im a fan of consistent damage and 100% vs 65 is a big difference
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Quote (Euxinus @ Nov 12 2018 09:01am)
to each his own but im a fan of consistent damage and 100% vs 65 is a big difference

Hm.... Venom Lord in CS got about 16K like. So First CB hit = 4000 hp.
100% CB = 4000 dam
85% CB = 3400 dam
65% CB = 2600 dam
So its really not so big difference. And in PvM 50-60% CB is really enough.
War Travelers gives nice 15-25 damage or like 500 damage after DS in every hit. Also boost to stats
Arreats can helps with resists if you have low charms/anni/torch also +skills and stats give some amount of damage. Life leech also useful. And 20 Dex gives better AR = more hits.



This post was edited by GoreRider on Nov 12 2018 01:29am
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Nov 12 2018 11:07am
2. Weapon doesnt work with cb and ds.
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2. Weapon doesnt work with cb and ds.


what?
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Quote (Euxinus @ 12 Nov 2018 20:20)
what?


Only one weapon Count the cb and ds. (:
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Only one weapon Count the cb and ds. (:


i know, its independent for both swings. if u add it all up, each weapon gets 100% ds and cb
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Quote (GoreRider @ Nov 12 2018 12:25am)
Hm.... Venom Lord in CS got about 16K like. So First CB hit = 4000 hp.
100% CB = 4000 dam
85% CB = 3400 dam
65% CB = 2600 dam
So its really not so big difference. And in PvM 50-60% CB is really enough.
War Travelers gives nice 15-25 damage or like 500 damage after DS in every hit. Also boost to stats
Arreats can helps with resists if you have low charms/anni/torch also +skills and stats give some amount of damage. Life leech also useful. And 20 Dex gives better AR = more hits.



Do you know how CB works...? Less chance for CB does not mean less damage from a single instance of CB. This post is terrible misinformation.

Crushing Blow deals % of remaining monster HP regardless of your chance to proc it.
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Do you know how CB works...? Less chance for CB does not mean less damage from a single instance of CB. This post is terrible misinformation.

Crushing Blow deals % of remaining monster HP regardless of your chance to proc it.


I know that, for example if cb 50%, and mob got 16k life, so in average you get 2k damage (4000/2 =2000) per first hit. And yes , in average, less chance to cb= less damage over time. Also if you got 15% DS its the same like +15% increase of overall damage.

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I know that, for example if cb 50%, and mob got 16k life, so in average you get 2k damage (4000/2 =2000) per first hit. And yes , in average, less chance to cb= less damage over time. Also if you got 15% DS its the same like +15% increase of overall damage.



No. Again, you are completely wrong on CB.

The first crushing blow will ALWAYS deal 4k damage to a 16k hp normal monster. He has a 100% chance to have this occur with each swing. You have a 50% chance to have this occur with each swing. The damage will be reduced accordingly as the monster’s health decreases.

This is nowhere near the same as “he does 4k and i do 2k”

Your damage is not guaranteed; his IS.

Get it?
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