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Aug 21 2015 09:46am
Quote (Klaasje123 @ Aug 21 2015 11:40am)
No one said you have to ;)

We all just agree on one thing (except you) : Laying of hands is a better choice then draks, overall.

Fort is also a better choice then jewelers armor (wich is pretty expansive, unlike fort (rand)).

Ofocurse your build will work.. no one said it doesnt.. but that loh is better then draks, is a fact. (at least in most cases)


its not better, and i wont agree to that. it is situational. both glove have their uses, and i have yet to run into a real-game situation where i wanted to take my dracs off for anything else.

loh will give you a decent damage increase against only certain mobs when you already kill extremely fast, and you lose out on many other benefits.

and for the argument against using jewelers. you have no choice if you want to use edeath, dream hat, and dream shield. you will not hit max speed zeal without it.

so basically the argument is, is fort+some other weapon better than edeath+a jewelers? please tell me another weapon that is eth, 50 cb, and 50 ds ?
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Aug 21 2015 09:48am
Quote (142751 @ Aug 21 2015 11:43am)
Well in all honesty the amount of damage you lose from wearing 2 dreams isnt gonna be worth it then. Youre better off using a holy freeze merc with infinity and just maximizing your zeal damage. Your build sounds like a lot of work with no reward unless you are just aiming for a gimic.


7k lit damage added to each swing is negligible to you?

.......

at 4 frame zeal it is a TON of dps

the ENTIRETY of the rest of the build, every other slot, every charm slot, is geared to a physical damage zealot. please tell me what helmet and what shield you will use that replaces 7k damage per swing.
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Aug 21 2015 09:51am
Quote (respeconize8 @ 21 Aug 2015 17:46)
its not better, and i wont agree to that. it is situational. both glove have their uses, and i have yet to run into a real-game situation where i wanted to take my dracs off for anything else.

loh will give you a decent damage increase against only certain mobs when you already kill extremely fast, and you lose out on many other benefits.

and for the argument against using jewelers. you have no choice if you want to use edeath, dream hat, and dream shield. you will not hit max speed zeal without it.

so basically the argument is, is fort+some other weapon better than edeath+a jewelers? please tell me another weapon that is eth, 50 cb, and 50 ds ?


Demons are like 2/3 of the game, including act bosses..

I dont see the good things in draks, except strenght

leech you already have (and with grief you have laek AND leech)
You can use a life tap wand for life tap, if you really need it..
strenght is nice, means 15 more vita > more life..

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Aug 21 2015 09:55am
Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 22 2015 01:48am)
7k lit damage added to each swing is negligible to you?

.......

at 4 frame zeal it is a TON of dps

the ENTIRETY of the rest of the build, every other slot, every charm slot, is geared to a physical damage zealot. please tell me what helmet and what shield you will use that replaces 7k damage per swing.


How does dream add light damage to your swing? Its an offensive aura it doesnt add damage to your swings it just shocks the enemies in its radius.... and it doesnt shock as fast as a 4 frame zealer hits so you wouldnt be doing 7k damage extra with every swing. Youd be doing maybe 1.5k extra to the enemies without lightning resistance

This post was edited by 142751 on Aug 21 2015 09:57am
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Aug 21 2015 09:56am
Quote (Klaasje123 @ Aug 21 2015 11:51am)
Demons are like 2/3 of the game, including act bosses..

I dont see the good things in draks, except strenght

leech you already have (and with grief you have laek AND leech)
You can use a life tap wand for life tap, if you really need it..
strenght is nice, means 15 more vita > more life..


its more like 50%

what other leech do you see in my build? i only have 10LL on dracs and then the life tap once it procs

grief is inferior on this build. i was thinking about using my grief myself when i first started theorycrafting this build. edeath is superior in pvm on a zealot.
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Aug 21 2015 09:58am
Quote (142751 @ Aug 21 2015 11:55am)
How does dream add light damage to your swing? Its an offensive aura it doesnt add damage to your swings it just shocks the enemies in its radius.... and it doesnt shock as fast as a 4 frame zealer hits so you wouldnt be doing 7k damage extra with every swing. Youd be doing maybe 1.5k extra


see this is the problem in this thread, there are many uneducated people in here arguing with me. i have theorycrafted the hell out of this build
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Aug 21 2015 09:59am
Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 22 2015 01:58am)
see this is the problem in this thread, there are many uneducated people in here arguing with me. i have theorycrafted the hell out of this build


So im wrong about holy shock and it does in fact add lightning damage to your weapon as well as shock enemies in the radius?
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Quote (Klaasje123 @ Aug 21 2015 11:51am)
Demons are like 2/3 of the game, including act bosses..

I dont see the good things in draks, except strenght

leech you already have (and with grief you have laek AND leech)
You can use a life tap wand for life tap, if you really need it..
strenght is nice, means 15 more vita > more life..


as i said, yes, you will kill the act boss in 9 seconds, and i will kill it in 10. no argument.

life tap wand? so youre not using cta?
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Aug 21 2015 10:05am
Quote (142751 @ Aug 21 2015 07:38pm)
I dont understand the point of a dream zealer that doesnt maximize its aura damage.... holy shock really does fuck all damage without maxed conviction running in hell p8


Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 07:40pm)
for pure holy shock build there are better builds than mine to maximize your lit damage. i consider my build more of a phys damage first build, with the thought that there would be no hat and shield i could use instead that would replace 7k lit damage to each swing


yeah it's called a sorc. 50k dmg per swing.

The point of the zealer is combined phys dmg instead of fire dmg on the sorc
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as i said, yes, you will kill the act boss in 9 seconds, and i will kill it in 10. no argument.

life tap wand? so youre not using cta?


After boing ofcourse.. obvious.

But life tap is unneccessary with laek and life leech.
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