You can self glitch by flashing rings/circlet (can also do so with swap, i.e. with a Fal Lidless or some such).

Is it really that good for all the effort I would go through ?
Plus in a pub, how smart is fucking with strength ?

If you flash strength gear, there is no risk of losing things, you get your body in one click.

Good thinking. So how do you implement angelics vs Paladins ?

It's completely safe if you do it via flashing +strength equipment, you only have to worry if you try doing it with +str on swap.

I think it's definitely worth doing because the server does not keep up with your current position (since it is displaying incorrect values) and hence trying to read where you actually are becomes a significantly more difficult, especially useful when you have a Paladin of some such trying to catch you or if you are wsg'ing. I think it's most beneficial vs Paladins and Trappers but you can utilise it vs most characters.



On Europe you can use Clegs+BB to force them into using PB. I basically just use my regular set-up with Dungo's (for smiters)+Angelics lol (my Circlet is 80/30'd so I have to use a +str circlet and fal lidless to maintain str bug), tbh I rarely play vs Paladins in the first place so I would not be surprised if there was another set-up that is better, but I'm sure it would still contain Angelics

This post was edited by Tails chao on Mar 25 2012 03:14pm

I find 65fcr necessary vs paladin (hammer the biggest reason).
I don't know this str bug just limits swapping.

hm well not really, all you have to do is use a +str circlet ^^

Angelics and circlet are not 65 fcr. Griffon was on my mind for that situation but never tested it. This topic was about that question http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61565290&f=87&o=0

Ah yeah I see your point ^^, well I dunno but I would rather have the str bug myself since it really does make a big difference, but if you really want the fcr then go for it.

It sounds like angelics are not implementable then. Too much hustle and losing the possiblity to go Guillaume+angelics vs barb. And gores are hard to implement if you use shadowdancers.
Maybe the str bug is needed, but that means cementing some equip options and losing some item help. Especially gores, guillaume and angelics. That str bug better be good.

edit. Also a lot of people swear on Knockback. I have knockback fools but it doesn't knockback that much, or I don't see it. With off weapon knockback source I think both weapons would have 50% chance to knockback, maybe that would be ridiculously annoying for the paladin (for example to WW on charge could also autodesynch the f out of paladin). A lot of paladins whine about lag when you hit them in charge and lucky knockback, when in fact its your evil deed.

This post was edited by monSt4r on Mar 25 2012 04:44pm