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Jul 12 2010 09:48am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 12 2010 10:47am)
why weaken when i can use decrep right? :P


Well, decrep is BM on East ladder, weaken is GM.
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 12 2010 03:47pm)
why weaken when i can use decrep right? :P


one bad thing about decrep is that if they do land a ww hit... since they are slowed and the hitchecks remain the same they will hit you more within that whirl.

counterargument is that you shouldnt get caught.. or if they miss it leaves them open. but if you do get caught it could be a 1 whirl death.

Quote (MegaVovaN @ Jul 12 2010 03:48pm)
Well, decrep is BM on East ladder, weaken is GM.


decrep is not bm oO

This post was edited by Soccergoal10 on Jul 12 2010 09:49am
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Quote (Soccergoal10 @ Jul 12 2010 10:49am)
one bad thing about decrep is that if they do land a ww hit... since they are slowed and the hitchecks remain the same they will hit you more within that whirl.

counterargument is that you shouldnt get caught.. or if they miss it leaves them open. but if you do get caught it could be a 1 whirl death.



decrep is not bm oO


NECRO-SPECIFIC RULES:

- Recast of Bone Armor Is Allowed.
- Bone Prison is allowed vs. anything that can Teleport in 1v1.
- All Curses allowed Except Iron Maiden, Life Tap, Decrepify.
- NO Corpse skills are allowed.
- Fire Golem+ Dwarf Star is allowed(not vs fire trappers).
- Hot Spurs are allowed.
- No Overly Mass Defensive IBS Spamming.

um... yes it is.
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Quote (Soccergoal10 @ Jul 12 2010 11:49am)
one bad thing about decrep is that if they do land a ww hit... since they are slowed and the hitchecks remain the same they will hit you more within that whirl.

counterargument is that you shouldnt get caught.. or if they miss it leaves them open. but if you do get caught it could be a 1 whirl death.



decrep is not bm oO


its even better if they land on u with ww (as soon as they land on you with a ww, u spam 2x bone prison and are they are slowly wwing around, u spear/spirit them down a huge chunk of life per instance. also with decrep, zerk is practically useless as its too slow and u can almost sit there and tank them with spirit train + spear if they try to stomp u with it

Quote (MegaVovaN @ Jul 12 2010 11:51am)
NECRO-SPECIFIC RULES:

- Recast of Bone Armor Is Allowed.
- Bone Prison is allowed vs. anything that can Teleport in 1v1.
- All Curses allowed Except Iron Maiden, Life Tap, Decrepify.
- NO Corpse skills are allowed.
- Fire Golem+ Dwarf Star is allowed(not vs fire trappers).
- Hot Spurs are allowed.
- No Overly Mass Defensive IBS Spamming.

um... yes it is.


its gm on nonladder and d2pk and other realms :/ but meh... i'd rather not waste the point on it. u can get it instead of maiden if u want (i just like maiden for bm purposes hahah) but it would take lvl 99 to get it anyway lol

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 12 2010 09:53am
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Jul 12 2010 09:53am
weaken vs barb is more for vit necs, decrep is better vs barb with block
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Quote (MegaVovaN @ Jul 12 2010 03:51pm)
NECRO-SPECIFIC RULES:

- Recast of Bone Armor Is Allowed.
- Bone Prison is allowed vs. anything that can Teleport in 1v1.
- All Curses allowed Except Iron Maiden, Life Tap, Decrepify.
- NO Corpse skills are allowed.
- Fire Golem+ Dwarf Star is allowed(not vs fire trappers).
- Hot Spurs are allowed.
- No Overly Mass Defensive IBS Spamming.

um... yes it is.


those rules should be rewritten...
they allow hybrids to use wisp/raven/dwarf
no life tap
no mention what is stacking on barb/zon for dual raven rule. etc... decrep doesnt change gameplay at all really unless your a zon which should be bm cuz its an ias based char (similar to doom)

edit: and they say nothing about char restrictions. a good psn zon shouldnt really lose if wellgeared etc. its 1 hit l8z then POW! also good psn necros can do amazing in gm since they can l8z better than most etc. I am not saying they are best builds but overall in gm... they can beat any build if they know what they are doing. zon moreso.

This post was edited by Soccergoal10 on Jul 12 2010 09:57am
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 12 2010 10:51am)
its even better if they land on u with ww (as soon as they land on you with a ww, u spam 2x bone prison and are they are slowly wwing around, u spear/spirit them down a huge chunk of life per instance. also with decrep, zerk is practically useless as its too slow and u can almost sit there and tank them with spirit train + spear if they try to stomp u with it



its gm on nonladder and d2pk and other realms :/ but meh... i'd rather not waste the point on it. u can get it instead of maiden if u want (i just like maiden for bm purposes hahah) but it would take lvl 99 to get it anyway lol


hmm i'd no idea its only BM on east ladder, if so, then i guess weaken is good on my realm only lol.
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Quote (Soccergoal10 @ Jul 12 2010 10:54am)
those rules should be rewritten...
they allow hybrids to use wisp/raven/dwarf
no life tap
no mention what is stacking on barb/zon for dual raven rule. etc... decrep doesnt change gameplay at all really unless your a zon which should be bm cuz its an ias based char (similar to doom)

edit: and they say nothing about char restrictions. a good psn zon shouldnt really lose if wellgeared etc. its 1 hit l8z then POW! also good psn necros can do amazing in gm since they can l8z better than most etc. I am not saying they are best builds but overall in gm... they can beat any build if they know what they are doing. zon moreso.


THE YES'S SECTION.

- Items that Grant Aura (Except Hf vs Ias).
- Only one item that grants an elemental absorb type is allowed.
- Only one item that Grants Max %+ Resistance or skill allowed.
-A maximum of 451 poison damage is allowed from charms for all Ias characters.
- No Cap on R/w.
- No Cap on IAS.
- There is no restrictions on in-game techniques(IBS, IGA, farcast, hammer-fields, etc)*

so no psn zons are BM. Also, cleansing > psn necros. Death's hand > psn necros. I rarely lose to one on any of my chars.

psn javalin zons arent really hard either, much easier to dodge their javalin/poison cloud.

This post was edited by MegaVovaN on Jul 12 2010 10:05am
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Quote (MegaVovaN @ Jul 12 2010 12:03pm)
THE YES'S SECTION.

- Items that Grant Aura (Except Hf vs Ias).
- Only one item that grants an elemental absorb type is allowed.
- Only one item that Grants Max %+ Resistance or skill allowed.
-A maximum of 451 poison damage is allowed from charms for all Ias characters.
- No Cap on R/w.
- No Cap on IAS.
- There is no restrictions on in-game techniques(IBS, IGA, farcast, hammer-fields, etc)*

so no psn zons are BM. Also, cleansing > psn necros. Death's hand > psn necros. I rarely lose to one on any of my chars.


poison jav zon hybrids are dangerous tho, they do good long range damage and have poison incase u try to jump on them if u get close.

:P (their duration is so long, they hurt like crap even with deaths haha)
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Jul 12 2010 10:07am
Quote (Soccergoal10 @ 12 Jul 2010 16:54)
those rules should be rewritten...
they allow hybrids to use wisp/raven/dwarf
no life tap
no mention what is stacking on barb/zon for dual raven rule. etc... decrep doesnt change gameplay at all really unless your a zon which should be bm cuz its an ias based char (similar to doom)

edit: and they say nothing about char restrictions. a good psn zon shouldnt really lose if wellgeared etc. its 1 hit l8z then POW! also good psn necros can do amazing in gm since they can l8z better than most etc. I am not saying they are best builds but overall in gm... they can beat any build if they know what they are doing. zon moreso.


they work until you just negate poison or just def them back ^^, its hard to hit someone smart with plague anyway
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