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Quote (Hate It Or Love It @ Wed, 9 Aug 2006, 07:26)
ehh max block is no good , id go for pure vitaa


so you teleport into de suis and a couple other superuniques, then what ?

200-300 more life youll have... and get hit 3x as much

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Aug 12 2006 10:00am
very nice guide
im going to make this sc ladder =)
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Aug 12 2006 12:49pm
Nice guide ___ happy.gif. Good job.
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Aug 13 2006 11:12pm
i like your quides i will use these on the new hardcore ladder next season
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Aug 18 2006 09:24pm
act act 5 mercs are the same?
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Aug 19 2006 06:26am
I love your guide. Im currently using TGods (lvl 77)

At lvl 80 if I put Arachnid on, will I still be fine if I tele into a huge group of souls??

I guess my options are only to do one of these things...


1) Use wiz spike + 10% FCR Ring or Ammy.....
2) Use Arachnid

If I used WiZ then I would probably have to find a 10% FCR + Dext ring or something...... I REALLY like the TGods for its sorb and 85 lite res...

Post your thoughts.


Edit: The absorb on TGods is useless right??? Its not "20%......... its "20 dmg" ..... Right??

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Quote (forbattlenet @ Sat, 19 Aug 2006, 08:26)
I love your guide. Im currently using TGods (lvl 77)

At lvl 80 if I put Arachnid on, will I still be fine if I tele into a huge group of souls??

I guess my options are only to do one of these things...


1) Use wiz spike + 10% FCR Ring or Ammy.....
2) Use Arachnid

If I used WiZ then I would probably have to find a 10% FCR + Dext ring or something...... I REALLY like the TGods for its sorb and 85 lite res...

Post your thoughts.


Edit: The absorb on TGods is useless right??? Its not "20%......... its "20 dmg" ..... Right??


wearing tgods completely changes the purpose of the build

and yes its integer absorb, not very noticeable
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Aug 23 2006 08:18pm
Okay Ive built the din exactly as you posted it here. (Except I have been using KO'd Wiz / Tgods / 10fcr 15 Dex ring)

Merc exactly as you listed it. (Ive used both Tal mask and Dream) he dies in chaos either way..

I tried using the act 3 merc instead, but lower life and just didnt seem as helpful as the act 5 merc.


1) My #1 MAIN problems is that my merc dies sad.gif He has broad sword lawbringer, CoH, and Tal mask / Dream helm. (Both helms die). He is lvl 85

2) Its been 5 levels or so since I tried fighting the Fire Lords in chaos without my wiz...... But when I was wearing Hoz, and they have Conviction.... They lower my Res to below max... So I actually take damage from them!!!!!

So far using wiz, I have not taken any dmg from anything in hell hardly... I do about 2k less damage though. (Not that it matters, I still kill everything easy in a 4 player game of friends).

3) Do you actually use the Oak Sage from Hoto? Its cheap to repair.. I was just curious if anyone ever used it? Cant BO it, so it dies easy / fast.


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Aug 23 2006 08:45pm
Not sure if this was mentioned already.

If it was, I'm sorry.

Anyways, one item I absolutely adore using for my hdin in chaos is the Rising Sun ammy

This lets me tank ANY crowd of Venom Lords, especially Infector of Souls, since each inferno makes my life go up as if I used a healing potion. It's really quite amazing to see them try to kill me ;D - Even mana burns can't touch me

Also, another question - why focus on maxing holy shield before those one-point-wonder auras? once the +skills apply it's MAYBE +1% blocking chance per level, and then defense, but I consider defense overrated when you have max block...

I think you might have said to put a point in Redemption, but not sure. Either way, I consider this an almost VITAL skill for chaos, since on those rare occasions your life and mana go down, especially mana, they come back in an instant with just one point in this.

And vs. mana burns, meditation really speeds things up. Of course, I don't use it vs. Lord De Seis and his minions, but as long as you have that little ammy I mentioned above, Infector of Souls with mana burn is a cinch. Just put on medi instead of conc, and voi la, he can't touch you, you're constantly attacking, and it just takes about 3x the time as with conc.

Anyways, great guide, I refrain from playing hc due to my fear of losing itams through death, but if I ever do, I'll be sure to look this one up again wink.gif
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Aug 23 2006 10:23pm
Quote (forbattlenet @ Thu, Aug 24 2006, 02:18am)
Okay Ive built the din exactly as you posted it here. (Except I have been using KO'd Wiz / Tgods / 10fcr 15 Dex ring)

Merc exactly as you listed it. (Ive used both Tal mask and Dream) he dies in chaos either way..

I tried using the act 3 merc instead, but lower life and just didnt seem as helpful as the act 5 merc.


1) My #1 MAIN problems is that my merc  dies sad.gif He has broad sword lawbringer, CoH, and Tal mask / Dream helm. (Both helms die). He is lvl 85

2) Its been 5 levels or so since I tried fighting the Fire Lords in chaos without my wiz...... But when I was wearing Hoz, and they have Conviction.... They lower my Res to below max... So I actually take damage from them!!!!!

So far using wiz, I have not taken any dmg from anything in hell hardly... I do about 2k less damage though. (Not that it matters, I still kill everything easy in a 4 player game of friends).

3) Do you actually use the Oak Sage from Hoto? Its cheap to repair.. I was just curious if anyone ever used it? Cant BO it, so it dies easy / fast.


If you guys notice Gary said for this build to work almost none of the items on either the merc nor the player are negotiable. To get the results listed you must follow the guide exactly. I've made this character ESCL exactly to these specs and it runs great.
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