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pls _answer_ _me_ _where_ _did_ _you_ _leran_ _this_ _kind_ _of_ _type_. _It_ _looks_ _famillar_ +to_ _me_.
ohh btw what is teh newest guide form your mentors? you almost dont say anything new? why that?
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Why the hell do you state "19+/19+" on Hellfire Torch and Annihilus? Couldn't you just say "20/20". Also, I doubt all the resistances necessary, you will have too hard time with ES sorcs anyways.


Simply because you don't NEED a perfect torch. And yes the res is necessary. Fire res on necs is not very easy to come by without using fire res charms, etc. Telling people to get perfect items, discourages them somewhat. I do not want that. I want other people to go out and try making a good nec for themselves and having fun with it.


Yet 19+ means 20. Or so it looks in my eyes. You should rather type 19-20. And no, I doubt the resistances being necessary in anywhere except pub games, and if your nec is getting teamed against a few ES sorcs, the resistances won't matter for shits, and for 1v1, for fire resistances, you got Hotspurs, am I not right?


If I'm reading this right, your saying, "I'm being teamed by 3 sorcs, I might as well not put up a fight and use no res." Correct? And the res are necessary everywhere except vs Hdins, other Bone necs, most melee. You should however ALWAYS have somewhat decent res. (For the exception of some GM duels where you won't need the res whatsoever) You would be suprised. I actually switch my gear for sorcs now, I now use 15res/9dex wizzy, Sshanks, and Spirit vs sorcs for some very nicely stacked res. (Mind you, very rarely do I ever BM. Hotspurs = BM) That allows me to tank 3 Blizz's/3 FB's/ 3-xx Lightnings (pending on dmg of hit). Simple thing, is just don't get hit. That's your main strat either way. FB sorcs have the advantage over others, they should be your only concern until you meet an extreme es light sorc. Blizzers, catch them when the skill timer takes effect. Fber's, come from below, tele above and spear down. Most won't realize what happened, and will die before they are out of FHR lock. Light sorcs, use spirit to lure them, then use the same tactic as you would a FBer. Orbers, well, throw on a raven and they will heal you basically. Remember, 1 piece of absorb IS GM.


No offense, but I consider such "GM rules" bullshit in public games. How could an ES sorc call you BM when they negate 95% of your dmg? Really, it makes no sense. They deal "more" dmg, so you shouldn't hesitate on negating them. Seriously, even if _you_ have your own rules that you go by, not everyone does. I'm more of a BvC player, so I couldn't care less about the whining of sorcs.

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Just a question to ya, Ever seen stores sell stuff for like $19.99 and not $20.00? The $19.99 looks more appealing does it not?


I've seen commercials say "Under 800, only 799.90", and I just cannot stop laughing, since it's _sooo_ hilarious.


Who said anything about pub games being GM? 99% are all BM. Hence, sorb the hell out of them.

Do not turn this guide into a spam/flame fest. Thank you.

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pls _answer_ _me_ _where_ _did_ _you_ _leran_ _this_ _kind_ _of_ _type_. _It_ _looks_ _famillar_ +to_ _me_.
ohh btw what is teh newest guide form your mentors? you almost dont say anything new? why that?
little puppet?


If thats directed to me. I keep my dueling the same. Once you find a good tactic that works, stick with it. It will usually keep working. I am however, going to be working on a new guide, as I've found some new things out.

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Quote (mork25 @ Wed, Jun 21 2006, 09:03pm)
pls _answer_ _me_ _where_ _did_ _you_ _leran_ _this_ _kind_ _of_ _type_. _It_ _looks_ _famillar_ +to_ _me_.
ohh btw what is teh newest guide form your mentors? you almost dont say anything new? why that?
little puppet?


I picked that type of typing from morotsjos IIRC, also, I would rather use ctrl+b+i+u, but D2jsp doesn't allow such.

As for the newest thing, I do not know, they're all pretty "newish". And no, I didn't pick up everything from the guides, I also made up idea by myself or from ideas of others. As for the mentors thing, quit with it.

Also, quit spamming about me into threads only because you have no fucking idea.
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okido, just made my nec, here are his stats :

I have max block with homunculus and i have 3230 life with max block.

When I change on spirit for 125fcr i have ~3300 life

Note : My life will increase, as fast as I find the Crafted belt i'm lookin for ... heart.gif

dmg with Wizzy is : 4.5k spear
dmg with Hoto is : 5k spear
dmg with White is : 5.750 spear (wont post spirit, it's near it).

but, i've got a prob : as I play ladder, it's difficult to get life/res sc's so i use some weak 20life/single resist sc's.. and I lack resist -.- so I have to use wizzy vs all kinda sorcs which cuts my dmg with 0.5k (don't use any absorb)

and one more problem are Wind druids.. htf do u take them down ? i just CAN'T they seem like impossible with all those summons


for the rest, he's doin overall good, thanks for the nice guide smile.gif
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okido, just made my nec, here are his stats :

I have max block with homunculus and i have 3230 life with max block.

When I change on spirit for 125fcr i have ~3300 life

Note : My life will increase, as fast as I find the Crafted belt i'm lookin for ... heart.gif

dmg with Wizzy is : 4.5k spear
dmg with Hoto is : 5k spear
dmg with White is : 5.750 spear (wont post spirit, it's near it).

but, i've got a prob : as I play ladder, it's difficult to get life/res sc's so i use some weak 20life/single resist sc's.. and I lack resist -.- so I have to use wizzy vs all kinda sorcs which cuts my dmg with 0.5k (don't use any absorb)

and one more problem are Wind druids.. htf do u take them down ? i just CAN'T they seem like impossible with all those summons


for the rest, he's doin overall good, thanks for the nice guide smile.gif


Well if your using homunc, res really shouldn't be much of a problem. Either way, 4k dmg is plenty to kill.

With windys, I've found a new strat. Teeth somewhat makes them run and hide to resummon. So I've found out that spearing them to kill most of their summons, tele'ing back some spearing again to kill the rest, then once you have a chance, FHR lock them with spear. So far I have not lost to a druid using this strat. So far so good at least.

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i use spirit almost all the time

and i use homu vs babas and some pala's only


hm, i'll try with this strat and let u know
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i use spirit almost all the time

and i use homu vs babas and some pala's only


hm, i'll try with this strat and let u know


Just remember, using an SS gives you 50% DR (if Ber'd) which helps alot vs windys. (Remember, nado is phys dmg) Maybe that'll help some.
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i use spirit almost all the time

and i use homu vs babas and some pala's only


hm, i'll try with this strat and let u know


Just remember, using an SS gives you 50% DR (if Ber'd) which helps alot vs windys. (Remember, nado is phys dmg) Maybe that'll help some.


but then i'll lose the 125 fcr, and they will catch me pretty fast. (in Europe there are almost only 163fcr builds... block builds are rare)
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Quote (Ongeboren @ Fri, Jun 30 2006, 09:52am)
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Quote (Ongeboren @ Thu, Jun 29 2006, 01:06am)
i use spirit almost all the time

and i use homu vs babas and some pala's only


hm, i'll try with this strat and let u know


Just remember, using an SS gives you 50% DR (if Ber'd) which helps alot vs windys. (Remember, nado is phys dmg) Maybe that'll help some.


but then i'll lose the 125 fcr, and they will catch me pretty fast. (in Europe there are almost only 163fcr builds... block builds are rare)


Well, you can always switch up your build some to hit that 125 FCR break.

Edit: Working on V4 right now. Will be MUCH more in depth. Hopefully will cover most of the questions asked and so forth.

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What is a good max block setup vs all?

like a game with a ele dmg char, druid, bvc?

What gear would you use? dont include valk, duped boots or bonemaster =\

Halp?
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