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Apr 21 2008 10:03pm
20/2s = 9 (3) 10.3 (3) 10.6 (3)

doesn't look like soft or hard points make a difference.

ok, my conclusions are coming in the next post happy.gif so stay tuned a sec.
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Apr 21 2008 10:11pm
2/1h = .3 (3)
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2 hard points into mindblast, 1 hard (h) point into shadow master, .3 mindblasts per minute for a 3 minute test.

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2/1h = .3 (3) .3 (3) .3 (3)
15/1h = 4.5 (10)
15/2h = 4.3 (3) 4.3 (3) 3 (3)
20/1h = 10.6 (10) 7.4 (10) 8.3 (3) 11 (3) 11.6 (3)
20/2h = 15.2 (10) 9.2 (10) 9 (3) 8.3 (3) 9 (3)
20/2s = 17 (10) 9 (3) 10.3 (3) 10.6 (3)
20/3h = 10 (5) 14.6 (5) 10.6 (3)
20/5h = 12 (5) 4.5 (5)
20/5h + 2s = 4.6 (5)
20/20h = 5.1 (10) 6.6 (3) 7.3 (3) 6 (3)
20/2 with 19 traps = 8.3 (3) 11.3 (3) 11.3 (3)


what i gather from all this:
--sm tends to mindblast in groups....a lot of the times i got many mindblasts per minute, it would do 3-5 mindblasts in a row, and then do nothing for 10+ seconds.
--hard points in mindblast make a BIG difference, if you're going to pump mindblast, get 20 mindblast for sure.
--additional points into sm make no difference...or possibly even lower the chance to cast mindblast
--hard and soft points don't seem to make a substantial difference in chance to cast mindblast
--lowering other skills doesn't seem to make much of a difference (it's also worth noting that sm dflights like a muthafucka even though i don't have a single point in the entire MA tree, so the hard points thing seems to mostly only apply to mindblast for some reason)
--a low amount of mindblast means shadow casts mindblast VERY rarely.
--the random gear means that sometimes your shadow won't use mindblast often, and sometimes it will use it a lot (or at least that's my explanation)
--there's a big difference between maxing mindblast and not maxing it

alright, I'm done with this crap! hopefully this will help other people looking at mindblast frequency on sm.
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Apr 22 2008 11:20am
Quote (Yankzfan @ Tue, Apr 22 2008, 12:42am)
you want a 30 second test? that makes little sense to anyone who knows the scientific method. You don't duplicate scinerio's, you test possibility probability etc. In a 30 second test the odds of one getting a random high-spam and the other barely casting is random, where as in a 10 min test the odds will show that they should almost even out the spam frequency. So for one to be getting 50+ more, Yeah, it probably was a high spam luck for him, but the odds of luck making up HALF the spams? nty

Darc, truly I see one 10 minute test per, maybe 2-3 max being fine, and 5 pt intervals is more than small enough, don't mind the winers who want you to do all the work...

People, If You Want The Work Done For Your Setup And Your Lvl Mind Blast Do The Shit Your Self You Noobs!!!!!!!!!
Don't try to lecture me, clown.
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Apr 22 2008 11:33am
i guess im maxing mb.
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Apr 22 2008 11:42am
btw, i'm doing (actually i'm pretty much done) with some new tests...it appears shadow master's skills are cast at 1/2 the level of the shadow + 1/2 the level you personally have the skill at. this was tested with blade shield + a swiss watch happy.gif

EDIT: i'll be doing a bit more testing between mb lvls 18-20, it was much harder to tell a difference there. but get at least 18, that much is fo sho.

This post was edited by darcanegel on Apr 22 2008 11:43am
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Apr 22 2008 02:30pm
finished my additional, strictly-controlled testing (in forgotten tower, sorc in one corner, assassin in the other, teleporting into the corner so it's always in the same place), and the final result showed that 20 points is definitely > 18, here's a list of how many mindblasts in a 3 minute period each one got...

20/1 : 37, 39, 29, 45, 31
18/1 : 24, 27, 23, 22

each of the 20 pt ones was > each of the 18 point ones. so definitely 20 mindblast.
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Apr 22 2008 03:11pm
RUN AN UNPAIRED ONE-TAILED P TEST JUST TO BE SURE YO.

This post was edited by Dumpling on Apr 22 2008 03:13pm
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Quote (Dumpling @ Tue, Apr 22 2008, 01:11pm)
RUN A TWO-TAILED P TEST JUST TO BE SURE YO.


two-tailed?
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Apr 22 2008 03:14pm
i meant unpaired one-sided

oOPS
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Apr 22 2008 03:17pm
Tisk, tisk, Mr. UPenn. God, so jealous at the moment.
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