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I just wanna meantion, this build will lack deeply vs smiters / barbs, believe me what im talking about.
So, in case u define it as a caster killer, ur right, but why not optimize it to a 'only barbs can kill me' build ?
Well, I do mention a vita c/c build in the caster killer section of the guide, however using w/s maxblock allows a player to at least have some chance vs barbs and chargers while playing as a bowsin, not to mention maxblock helps out vs other classes such as bowzons, and using a maxblock kicker is essential if a player wants to kick vs kick on their build at all.
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Imho, a kicker with maxxed clawmastery and c/c has a huge advantage, then any other else.
I have tried many many ( really many ) different setups, imho c/c with fools + chaos is the optimum. There is no other choice.(
Yes kick/wwsin hybrids are viable, however usually those builds are near pure wwsins that just have enough ias for kicks and a level 1 base dtalon. This guide is for players looking to build a kicker without using a wwsin build. And there are other choices - as mentioned I use UmUm fools claw primary with a 6 venom claw offhand in c/c mode on my kicksin. I dont see a reason to use chaos as its not a wwsin build Im playing, I have a wwsin for that, might as well put those 19 points of cmastery and offhand claw to some better use if Im not making a build to whirl.
If a player wants to build a wwsin/kicker then yes that is viable, thats just not something I covered in the guide same as I have not covered kick/trap hybrids.
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The other thing i recognized, your praising too much on ow. Ususlly 60-75% ow is enuff, since you get ow tapped to 100% when 1 kickseries had sucessed.
Uh, Um'd fleshie is 75%, c/c setup uses 50% with fools claw, 75% with ArtoQ. There are ow% belt setups mentioned and more ow% is not a bad thing, I have played with 100% ow setups and those are nice for opponents where you may only get one unblocked hit from a dtalon burst before the tele away. As you can see for my 102 c/c and w/s setups using valk/arach/gloves/2x rings/craft amulet, the only source of ow% is from the weapon in those setups.
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Another thing are the boots, If you use c/s i think Dancers wil be the optimum due to maxblock. On c/c i stick to upped gores.
Why gores over dancers in c/c? Yes more ow% is nice, but 30fhr/2skill/25 dex is kinda hard to overlook in any case.
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If you play ladder, pm me

Sorry my bnet kicker is on east nl. And I play on d2pk at the moment anyway.
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quite nice guide anyways, all important stuff mentioned.
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€: i just saw the vid kicker vs nec, imho you should play nec's with bos, since the golem slows you down anyway, so ...

I was using BoS vs the necro <.<