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Feb 4 2008 03:38pm
Quote (The_Morpheus @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 04:33pm)
Self found players get rather annoyed when reading a "guide" that suggests theoretical runes for runewords and insists that they are "musts"


for a max fcr summoner, enigma is required. Its the only way to teleport.

Every guide has runewords that are a must. go comment on all of theirs as well.
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Feb 4 2008 03:48pm
alot of people are telling me to try and get 75% block, for a necro that requires like 180~ dex(tried it out on single player with a up'd homunc, dont know baout darkforce spawn)

is it worth it? 75% block instead of an extra like 250 hp

oh and whats wrong with mana potting and using a clay golem instead? they slow down bosses a BUNCH

This post was edited by Sigglez on Feb 4 2008 03:50pm
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Quote (Sigglez @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 04:48pm)
alot of people are telling me to try and get 75% block, for a necro that requires like 180~ dex(tried it out on single player with a up'd homunc, dont know baout darkforce spawn)

is it worth it? 75% block instead of an extra like 250 hp


For PVP max block is a good idea. This is strictly pvm so it is not worth it at all. Also, Darkforce has 30% faster cast rate rather than max block %. So Homunc has much better block than darkforce does. If you are going to do the max block route, you need spirit.

Decrept slows the bosses more than plenty. The clay golem is better pvp than iron golem because iron would get too expensive since you have to use an item every time you die or he does.

This post was edited by mephistophilis on Feb 4 2008 03:53pm
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Quote (Sigglez @ Mon, 4 Feb 2008, 23:48)
alot of people are telling me to try and get 75% block, for a necro that requires like 180~ dex(tried it out on single player with a up'd homunc, dont know baout darkforce spawn)

is it worth it? 75% block instead of an extra like 250 hp


Lol. MB fo PNB/PSN necro - maybe. MB for summoner - total joke. You will not be hit, you don't need anything beside vita.
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Feb 4 2008 03:57pm
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hey are available due to the dupes that exist. Besides, you all act as if you cannot make a character work without all these damn runewords. If you need your "nigmas" and "finitys" to complete this game while you UT level, then you are mising the point behind the game. Play how you like, just dont join my games

That's irrelevant, they're still readily available.

Nobody is acting like the characters won't work without the runeword, it just so happens, the runeword is the best choice for the build and if it's easily attainable it doesn't make sense NOT to use it. People that play according to these guides aren't looking for a challenge they're looking for a fun, efficient, fast killing machine, the necro laid out in this fred is just that.

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Self found players get rather annoyed when reading a "guide" that suggests theoretical runes for runewords and insists that they are "musts"

Then don't read the guide?

it's common knowledge that self-found players are in the minority,especially on a D2 forum such as this.

This post was edited by chronowarp on Feb 4 2008 03:58pm
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double post, sorry.

edit.

This post was edited by chronowarp on Feb 4 2008 03:59pm
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Quote (mephistophilis @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 09:30pm)
he does die. several things can kill him even with the life synergies maxed out.


I got max res w/ beast, and my iron golem has never died with just 1 hard point. :-\

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Feb 4 2008 04:16pm
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for a max fcr summoner, enigma is required. Its the only way to teleport.

Every guide has runewords that are a must. go comment on all of theirs as well.


Naj's Puzzler? Charged amulet with teleport charges?

Think outside of the box.

You are 100% correct in thinking that I am picking on you and you alone. Come on, I don't have time to comment on all of them, just the silly ones that make no sense.

Honestly, it was a summoner guide. Summoners require absolutely no gear what so ever.
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Feb 4 2008 04:17pm
Quote (The_Morpheus @ Mon, Feb 4 2008, 05:16pm)
Naj's Puzzler? Charged amulet with teleport charges?

Think outside of the box.

You are 100% correct in thinking that I am picking on you and you alone. Come on, I don't have time to comment on all of them, just the silly ones that make no sense.

Honestly, it was a summoner guide. Summoners require absolutely no gear what so ever.


His is titled "The Ultimate PVM Summoner"

Did you really expect high end items not to be involved?
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Feb 4 2008 04:22pm
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Tue, 5 Feb 2008, 00:17)
His is titled "The Ultimate PVM Summoner"

Did you really expect high end items not to be involved?


I would expect not to read "a must" when something is not. Liked the guide, but yeah, naked summoners can manage, this is not a ultimate pvm summoner imho, it's ultimate ladder climber at besr.
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