Thx i guess i will go with insight Till i can effort Doom or forti

This post was edited by EndZeitPrinzessin on Feb 25 2026 03:23am

The best choice is NOT paying 4k fg for a 4os eth tmaul on ladder atm that's for surelmaooo

It sure isn‘t this threath is about best endgame setup, though.

To start the build/the season just go insight spirit get 125fcr and work your way to enigma Then transition to forti/ariocs/doom when you can afford them.

Im doing p8 tz like 2/3 hit with cursed unique packs with ondal wisdom btw off hand is spirit no tome or phoenix. No highlord amu eighter. Level 43 echo strike wit bc. My most expensive item is pride after enigma. Ondal is enpugh for high level echo.

I run eth ondalds and phoenix and it wrecks

What is the best bases to run insight with? Currently struggling to clear stuff with my insight.

How u get 2k, i just loaded some random shit into keylogger for a first time check and got 6k…. With 80+++k dps… and that was with a eth fleshripper.. no merc, no curse etc.

Anyway, this seems fun as pvp, eckoing strike and 1 of the melee strikes, slash or the lvl 30 one. Demons as meatshield with dmg gone to demon.

And then the defansive skills which seems a lot like bone armor. Absorb shield or smt.

So i got 6k single damage, with eni and that warlock shield with -magic damage etc as i was looking at hybrid build for fun.

People forget about the slow and -enemy def of fleshripper. They also forget about the 0,75 statbonus daggers have.
This was with 115 fcr, so 10fpa…

Using forti would give me 9fpa. I would prefer phoenix for abs/ed combi though.

Was there a new item with teleport? Since you are not using enigma?

This post was edited by gel87 on Feb 26 2026 07:07am

So lets just talk best in slot actual setup with unlimited budget

How do we stack up Ondals vs Obsession vs Insight as the actual frontrunners?
Obsession has vast upsides over ondals and unlocks another fcr slot saved, but that % ctc weaken when struck could be annoying, I haven't tested the build. It isn't exactly like the gamebreaker of lacerator's monster flee, but even 'on-struck' will matter for high level chars because you just can't avoid taking some ranged hits and it WILL overwrite your demon amp, even if demon overwrites it again. Is the massive +resists and +fcr and +life worth the upside?
Ondals comes with +5% xp baked in which is nice, otherwise its just there for the +4 skills 45% fcr, and that's better than all the next alternatives down the list
Even with its crit multiplier insight's overall damage isn't going to be better with the extra FCR slot needed, so the question is whether the QoL of insight on self rather than merc is worth much, I mean you could run a might insight merc on obsessio nand might pride on insight build, then maybe the damage comes ahead, the question being the value of meditation aura here.


Eth tmaul fortitude isn't even in the god damned running this ladder is a joke of suboptimal builds

the answer is of course you use a rare eth non rep partizan you find will leveling because you're too lazy to go on the trade forums and buy even a simple insight, also because you wasted 2 respecs running solo as a demon only build and you just recently did a respec after drinking a few beers and acciddentally dumped a bunch of points into the dagger throw tele skill which while its a dmg synergy to echo which you finally changed to it doesnt give extra echos like you thought it did.

i mean that would be the best if you're me and lvl 60 something struggling through hell act 1 solo with a merc that cant even live for 20 seconds.

Lol, i started melee skill tree immidiatly, im now lvl 12 xD casually solo walked most of act1 xD