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Mar 26 2012 06:50pm
you'd have to be retarded to want to do a 500fg blind wager duel on a non tele zealot or a SvS light sorc ^^

Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Mar 27 2012 12:23am)
he doesn't, it's blind when this happens

But wager sharking is a fine art
People generally multi when they do it
So someone has a random acct posting in legit duel forums, posting ISO: Wagers
And you let him get a few matches in and then PM those he's dueled and ask them what he uses

You then select from your repertoire of characters, the best possible character/setup to walk in and rip up his Dru/Nec w/e it happens to be that he favors


Ok but what if one person plays every character lol?

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Mar 26 2012 07:05pm
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Mar 26 2012 07:08pm
Quote (Jason_Voorhees @ Mar 26 2012 06:23am)
that's why Osama said before that nobody should judge anyone by vids^^



i'm using it vs almost everything, even if i have to sacrifice dr, i would probably use less fcr vs paladins and zons only but not rly duelling those because it's pretty boring

the setup for team duels is
2 barb 20 fcr 30 frw visio 20 dex 2 sox ChamLo circ (visio and dex to get as much ar as possible cause i'm using it on a priv realm where everyone can make eth/zb items)
grief/beast
hl
gores
trangs/mages
arach
fcr/1xx ar/1x dex/life/mana/lr ring
wisp
eni
that's a setup for 3v3/4v4 fpks and needs 10 fhr scs, you can socket helm with something else if there's no dru/sin in opposing team to reduce the amount of fhr scs but i still get ~7.5k life with it (on a priv realm with very good items though)

and my 1v1 setups are

vs necs
2 barb 20 fcr 30 frw life/mana/res 2 sox shael shael
hl
eni
grief/beast
arach
bvc ring
nature's peace
gores
mages/trangs

vs druids and sins
valky 08 (with cham vs druids, with some damage jewel vs sins)
grief/beast
hl
eni
gores
mages/trangs
2 bvc rings
bug belt / tgods

and the reason why i'm using 63 fcr with 28 dr instead of 37 fcr with max dr vs druids is because it's much easier to leap-tele-ww, works almost every time and is very hard for druid to escape and it's funnier to use 63 fcr^^


Oh hey what charm setup you use? 10x fhr charms (with 3max/20ar or 5 res)? Rest 32020?

I play on priv realm also btw... any way a rare would equal grief? Whats best choice for fcr ring?
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Mar 26 2012 07:12pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 27 2012 02:08am)
Oh hey what charm setup you use? 10x fhr charms (with 3max/20ar or 5 res)? Rest 32020?

I play on priv realm also btw... any way a rare would equal grief? Whats best choice for fcr ring?


Dunno what charms he uses for sure, but I'd guess all the rest are 3 20 20's, and probably some 20/11's if he needs light res ( altho I think 36/20's would be good vs these massiv def characters ).

For the second part I'll compare 2 weapons on eu d2pk



530 avg damage on the grief

481 average damage on the ba but 20% more deadly strike. ( after adding like 33 3 20 20's to both weapon )

If your using highlords and gores and have like 31% crit strike, you have 80.68% of double damage with grief, and 94.48% with that crafted weapon, so the 20% DS gives like 7.8% more damage.

481 * 1.076 = 517, so the crafted weapon would do less damage on average I guess.

For the fcr ring he said he uses :

fcr/1xx ar/1x dex/life/mana/lr ring

Edit:

Btw he also said he plays on a realm where u can make every item eth and rep, so ppl have more def so AR is more important to him I guess ( so like maybe some sick fools might be better in tvt's where he plays ).

Also Imo, if u play in a realm where oak charges aren't allowed, using a Lo Lo circ and a raven instead of Lo Cham + wisp is probably a better choice ( more AR, dex, mana and 20% abs vs hurri vs a bit more light damage taken ).

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Mar 26 2012 07:27pm
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Mar 26 2012 07:53pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ 26 Mar 2012 19:12)
Dunno what charms he uses for sure, but I'd guess all the rest are 3 20 20's, and probably some 20/11's if he needs light res ( altho I think 36/20's would be good vs these massiv def characters ).

For the second part I'll compare 2 weapons on eu d2pk

http://i44.tinypic.com/rumzhv.png

530 avg damage on the grief

481 average damage on the ba but 20% more deadly strike. ( after adding like 33 3 20 20's to both weapon )

If your using highlords and gores and have like 31% crit strike, you have 80.68% of double damage with grief, and 94.48% with that crafted weapon, so the 20% DS gives like 7.8% more damage.

481 * 1.076 = 517, so the crafted weapon would do less damage on average I guess.

For the fcr ring he said he uses :

fcr/1xx ar/1x dex/life/mana/lr ring

Edit:

Btw he also said he plays on a realm where u can make every item eth and rep, so ppl have more def so AR is more important to him I guess ( so like maybe some sick fools might be better in tvt's where he plays ).

Also Imo, if u play in a realm where oak charges aren't allowed, using a Lo Lo circ and a raven instead of Lo Cham + wisp is probably a better choice ( more AR, dex, mana and 20% abs vs hurri vs a bit more light damage taken ).


Better average damage, additional Venom damage, and LAK which is pretty decent.
Grief is amazing.
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Mar 26 2012 08:35pm
Quote (ranorn @ 26 Mar 2012 19:44)
Fireclaws has highest chance vs all noob


Ah, how could I forget the dreaded FC. Though, I thought a recent study has concluded that Molten Boulder druids are even better.
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Mar 26 2012 08:37pm
Quote (Juicy_J @ 26 Mar 2012 20:35)
Ah, how could I forget the dreaded FC. Though, I thought a recent study has concluded that Molten Boulder druids are even better.


That study was found to be false, faulty math.
Fire Claws remains the best..
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Mar 26 2012 08:38pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 27 2012 02:12am)
Dunno what charms he uses for sure, but I'd guess all the rest are 3 20 20's, and probably some 20/11's if he needs light res ( altho I think 36/20's would be good vs these massiv def characters ).

For the second part I'll compare 2 weapons on eu d2pk

http://i44.tinypic.com/rumzhv.png

530 avg damage on the grief

481 average damage on the ba but 20% more deadly strike. ( after adding like tel:33%203%2020%2020's to both weapon )

If your using highlords and gores and have like 31% crit strike, you have 80.68% of double damage with grief, and 94.48% with that crafted weapon, so the 20% DS gives like 7.8% more damage.

481 * 1.076 = 517, so the crafted weapon would do less damage on average I guess.

For the fcr ring he said he uses :

fcr/1xx ar/1x dex/life/mana/lr ring

Edit:

Btw he also said he plays on a realm where u can make every item eth and rep, so ppl have more def so AR is more important to him I guess ( so like maybe some sick fools might be better in tvt's where he plays ).

Also Imo, if u play in a realm where oak charges aren't allowed, using a Lo Lo circ and a raven instead of Lo Cham + wisp is probably a better choice ( more AR, dex, mana and 20% abs vs hurri vs a bit more light damage taken ).


Damn my weaps :-)
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Mar 26 2012 09:05pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 26 2012 09:12pm)

Also Imo, if u play in a realm where oak charges aren't allowed, using a Lo Lo circ and a raven instead of Lo Cham + wisp is probably a better choice ( more AR, dex, mana and 20% abs vs hurri vs a bit more light damage taken ).


Thx :)

This is interesting, I'll try out both ways and see. Yea oak charges are not allowed in PD where I play
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Mar 27 2012 12:11am
add my guide for a SvS Fireball

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61405609&f=87
Basically Doh's but as a fire sorceress
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Mar 27 2012 02:41am
Quote (DHA @ Mar 27 2012 03:38am)
Damn my weaps :-)


yea ^^

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