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Mar 26 2012 03:01pm
Quote (tudey @ Mar 26 2012 09:19pm)
dude would you really do a 500fg blind wager with a damach zon, tele java, shit tri element zon, kicker, summoner, auradin, zealot, zeal sorc??? if not either you should remove these guides from the list or change the criteria


Wont do bet duelle with rolf?

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Mar 26 2012 05:17pm
Quote (tudey @ Mar 26 2012 04:19pm)
dude would you really do a 500fg blind wager with a damach zon, tele java, shit tri element zon, kicker, summoner, auradin, zealot, zeal sorc??? if not either you should remove these guides from the list or change the criteria


There are people that use these builds for very specific counter builds in fg wagers
Things like Damach or ZealSorc, they may not be good (all around)
But they are good to counter very specific builds
Just make sure you're 100% positive that you know what your opponent is bringing

Example: Stomping plague zons (played by someone who has great NLing skills)
Is extremely dangerous to a Bowa but doesn't do so well vs other classes
Where as the Bowa is much better all around vs those other classes but still dies horribley to a Tele/Plague

Some of these builds may not be well rounded enough to make it to rank #1 in a world ladder
But they certainly have their place in wagers
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Mar 26 2012 05:20pm
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ Mar 27 2012 12:17am)
There are people that use these builds for very specific counter builds in fg wagers
Things like Damach or ZealSorc, they may not be good (all around)
But they are good to counter very specific builds
Just make sure you're 100% positive that you know what your opponent is bringing

Example: Stomping plague zons (played by someone who has great NLing skills)
Is extremely dangerous to a Bowa but doesn't do so well vs other classes
Where as the Bowa is much better all around vs those other classes but still dies horribley to a Tele/Plague

Some of these builds may not be well rounded enough to make it to rank #1 in a world ladder
But they certainly have their place in wagers


yes but why would the other person do a bet duel vs a character he has a massive disadvantage against?
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Mar 26 2012 05:23pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 26 2012 07:20pm)
yes but why would the other person do a bet duel vs a character he has a massive disadvantage against?


And considering you said 500fg blind wager
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Mar 26 2012 05:23pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 26 2012 07:20pm)
yes but why would the other person do a bet duel vs a character he has a massive disadvantage against?


he doesn't, it's blind when this happens

But wager sharking is a fine art
People generally multi when they do it
So someone has a random acct posting in legit duel forums, posting ISO: Wagers
And you let him get a few matches in and then PM those he's dueled and ask them what he uses

You then select from your repertoire of characters, the best possible character/setup to walk in and rip up his Dru/Nec w/e it happens to be that he favors

This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Mar 26 2012 05:24pm
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Mar 26 2012 05:36pm
Quote (Habakkuk22 @ 26 Mar 2012 17:23)
he doesn't, it's blind when this happens

But wager sharking is a fine art
People generally multi when they do it
So someone has a random acct posting in legit duel forums, posting ISO: Wagers
And you let him get a few matches in and then PM those he's dueled and ask them what he uses

You then select from your repertoire of characters, the best possible character/setup to walk in and rip up his Dru/Nec w/e it happens to be that he favors


Ok, Plague Zon is blind wager champ. LOL

This post was edited by young2093 on Mar 26 2012 05:37pm
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Mar 26 2012 05:52pm
why use zealsorc when u can make a telezealer
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=12121433&f=87
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Mar 26 2012 05:55pm
Quote (young2093 @ 26 Mar 2012 18:36)
Ok, Plague Zon is blind wager champ. LOL


Has the highest probability vs all, so I've heard. Even higher than conc barb vs all.
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Mar 26 2012 06:21pm
gm es hybrid

the guide is very well written, but u won't do any better vs bowa and weaken urself vs all other chars in my book compared to pure vita
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Mar 26 2012 06:44pm
Quote (Juicy_J @ Mar 26 2012 07:55pm)
Has the highest probability vs all, so I've heard. Even higher than conc barb vs all.


Fireclaws has highest chance vs all noob
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