why cry about something which can be easily nulified, people on europe learned to stack ias to counter slow east paldins can do the same, life tap isnt rly an issue because both sides can use it and like somebody said earlier its totally accepted by good players (it actually makes from smiter challanging pvper, not a failure)
none of you guys mentioned about absorbing or stacking foh in vt v vt which is weird, im sure if a good player showed up with max stack, and whisp you all would be forced to use it as well (thats the case on europe, nobody gives opponent free advantage)

here people found way to use their chars with full potential to counter opponets tactics without making uneeded rules, when you honestly think about it, that makes game more balanced (dont think that banning exile only because newbs cry about it makes game better, it actually fucks up the balance and gives smiter/vt 0 chance to beat any competent druid or assa), only duel where slow isnt accepted is vs ama (who would need it anyway), why would casters cry about it ? (with exception of assa but lets face it slow is just giving smiter a fair chance nothing more)
that's my 2 cents about this "East ladder" rules.

This post was edited by Snapped on Aug 3 2009 07:41am

exile adds in a huge "luck" possibility in the duel set..... tell me the truth do you really want your wins to be due to "lucK?" anyone can have a good day and just tap every time they smite.... even a godly vt can lose to a mediocre dueler because of the chance of luck from exile...

us east players decided to reduce the only thing that has "luck" to it the 10% cb from gloves which makes the duels much more fair and almost all "skill" based.

as for wisp. a lot of people use them. and in east rules the duels take place in nm (i dunno why i think that part is stupid) so all people need to stack is 10x 20/11 lite scs and its good. even in hell though the only difference i'd need to do is add a wisp or use my res boots over waterwalks and i'm still set. honestly its not that much of a difference.

and as mentioned before, us east players like to keep things fast paced and exciting. unlike a lot of west players and stuff rules like overly use of boxing and too defensive and stuff is considering bm. it just improves the overall game play. using no slow = both players are very fast and can synch more and stuff.... its not like those duels where 2 vts just throw 1 foh and charge at each other and keep smiting. its all synch in smitesmitesmite run out..... so fast paced that if a bad player is facing a good one, he might not even be able to get a single hit in (well... maybe 1-2 but thats it)

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 3 2009 07:53am

i dno how do u desynch considering u dont have vigor (every decent player has it stated)
life tap isnt everything, good player wont just dumb stay and let opponent heal they will charge away and use cleansing, good desynch lots of hf flashing and some fohing all in very offensive way thats how it looks,
luck is highly overrated by people who actually didnt play much and dont understand this matchup, howcome ben (one of the best vts on eu) wins most of duels he plays ? (guess he won on a lottery and always cast lt first haha), thats just bullocks u cant rly say it without playing this kind of char, build one, play alot of duels and gain some experience then we will talk, othwerise its useless to discuss.

This post was edited by Snapped on Aug 3 2009 08:22am

As I used to say when I played card games (magic the gathering), concerning the aspect of luck in the game

You make your own luck.
id rather win with luck than abusing glitches

This post was edited by gr8ape on Aug 3 2009 08:15am

How much ias you should get on a Grief Ba to reach the bp?

So after HS, HS, Fana, Foh is maxed, shouldnt I put in Conviction, instead of smite? What do you recommend?

keep comparing apples to oranges that just so productive. and its not an "east ladder" rule its all of east that treats slow and LT as bm. Besides any smiter that needs LT or slow to win a 1v1 really needs to learn how to duel.

ok i will duel your so called "gm" smiter with my druid or barb lets see if u manage to frag me once

This post was edited by Snapped on Aug 3 2009 11:11am

so you are saying synch isnt possible w/o vigor? lol sure vigor can make it easier, but also makes it weaker and its not nearly as needed. when i vt duel i charge around with holy freeze 90% of the duel...

and you want to talk to me about skill and rep? tell you what. i held all these titles (wont even mention #2 and #3 places cuz those arent worth mentioning):
#1 sin v sin ladder - d2gm, d2duel,ezpk,postabout,d2jsp
#1 all vs all - d2gm, d2duel, d2jsp
#1 druid v druid - d2jsp
#1 nec v nec - d2gm, d2pk
#1 vt vs vt - d2gm

so before you start preaching about skill, why dont you achieve something first and have some solid stuff to back yourself up other than "well my friend was gg and he can do xxx"



bring your barb to east or d2pk and we'll do it



everyone uses wsm with claws and east considers it gm.. why odnt you go with the flow and just agree with that the majority thinks (thats how the rules got made in the first place)



look at the skill distribution... follow it.... there are even pictures. all other "stupid" questions that have already been clearly answer in the guide will be ignored from this post on.



you need 40ias on the zerker AND 10%+ on gloves to get the bp. thats IF your opponent doenst use 10% slow (like arach or something)

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Aug 3 2009 11:55am

the fuck are u saying ? u make no sense,


haha braggin with random ladders nobody heard or cared of, we had such rankings on europe as well and i played against players from there who had pretty high ranks on daily basis, 90% of them were in fact horrible players and huge attention whores, while they werent close to real top of each class from realm



like 10 pages ago i offered you duel and pm'd information about european d2pk (which u asked) since then I didnt see any actions from your side.