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Jun 4 2021 10:38am
Quote (massmarines @ Jun 4 2021 09:31am)
so... is Barb the better physical wolf?


I don't think dex glitched wolf barb would win in a melee duel against a proper fury druid but I felt like he's a very strong melee character for PvM due to sky high defense, great damage with 4 frame attack and high leech.

This post was edited by Dr_Lecter on Jun 4 2021 10:38am
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Jun 4 2021 10:47am
so what to skill?

1-x natural resists
20 ironskin
20 shout
20 Bo
1 BC
20 sword mastery
1-x increased speed

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Jun 4 2021 10:50am
I did
Max
Sword mastery
Battle orders
Shout
Iron skin
1 pt battle command
1 pt increased speed
1 pt natural resistances
Divide rest of points evenly between increased speed and natural resistances
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Jun 4 2021 11:04am
and what would be the perfect jool? (for the PB)

x dex
-req

and what else? is @ possible on rares?
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Jun 4 2021 11:19am
Quote (massmarines @ Jun 4 2021 07:04pm)
and what would be the perfect jool? (for the PB)

x dex
-req

and what else? is @ possible on rares?


9dex
-15req
10@
9str/7fhr/15mana/8life/30cr/30lr/30pr/30fr
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Jun 4 2021 11:34am
Quote (Ironboar @ Jun 4 2021 04:25pm)
ok, let me try one more time use gel87's formula:

all min = 35.65
all max = 196+40.25=236.25
strbonus+edbonus+skillbonus+aurabonus = 475% + 360% + 243% + 605% = 1,683%

AVG-DMG:
[(35.65 + 236.25) / 2 + 400] x {1 + [(1,683%) / 100%]}
= 535.95 x 17.83
= 9555.9885
= 9.555k

and based on another formula gel87 provide:
chance to deal double = 70 x [1-(31/100)] + 31 = 79.3%
wow for me that double %% is high enough,
9.555k average x 2 = 19.11k


This is very precise but you should round down base dmg.
All min: 35,65 = 35
All max: 236,25 = 236

(35 + 236)/2 = 135,5 <-- here u can have decimal, since its average dmg.


Also, dno who wrote it earlier in topic, but amp cannot be seen as ed%. Its a factor for itself. Way more power full. Amp also affect cb, which makes it epic:
Forexample:
EnemyRemainingHp/6 * (1-(DR%/100))

Average dmg * (1+(double%/100)) * (1-(DR%/100))

DR% would be -100% when a 0%DR monster is amped.
It would be -50 if a 50% dr monster is amped.

This post was edited by gel87 on Jun 4 2021 11:42am
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Jun 4 2021 12:43pm
Good news. Bug works with grief of destruction. This shit is so good :thumbsup:
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Quote (cantero @ Jun 4 2021 08:43pm)
Good news. Bug works with grief of destruction. This shit is so good :thumbsup:


Mate, could you try to see what happens with this:

Grief colossus sword (10wsm) - put over gloves
Pb 100ias (-30wsm) - put over boots

1. Flash grief cb
2. Shapechange
3. Attack with feral rage
4. Check if still 3 frame attack.

This test should easy check which wsm is beeing used.
If u get max ias with this it means you can wsm bug + this new bug.

(-30+10)/2 = -10
-10 + (-30 - 10) = -50wsm

With -50wsm the ias needed should really start beeing low.
Which means forexample maby botd pb can be used instead of robo blade. And god cb deals more dmg, combined with 30all stats from botd. Or maby with 110 or 120ias robo blade u can reach 2 frames?
Or less shaels and more 7fhr/stats/10@/addd jools

And if that works:
War hammer 450ed/eth/self/LoLo (20wsm) over gloves
+
Beast caduece (-10wsm) over boots
(-10+20)/2 + (-20 - 10) = -25 wsm and added fana.

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Jun 4 2021 06:07pm
Quote (Dr_Lecter @ Jun 4 2021 09:38am)
I don't think dex glitched wolf barb would win in a melee duel against a proper fury druid but I felt like he's a very strong melee character for PvM due to sky high defense, great damage with 4 frame attack and high leech.


Yes that's Y I mentioned "for PVM" at the beginning, :rofl:
it got no shield first, even use the AR build, it can kill no fury or other wolf barb in duel, cuz they all use Stormshield + godly efool pb, or Grief (for BM), or white PB socket w/ Shaels + 40/15,
for my experience so far, I only use this build (BM duel) killed these guys:

    sorc(I got lots of trash frw sc on us east and put them),
    wolf druid with 2-handed wp (tomb reaver),
    bear druid (they used grief or something I didn't remember)
    zon(lightning, glass?)

but I use the same build (without any melee charms) dueled with 4k ar, tomb reaver (top dmg + 2x45-15 + zod), tested 5 times, each time I got killed first but he only left 100~200 life too (I'm 6k only that time, he is 9k+++)

This post was edited by Ironboar on Jun 4 2021 06:07pm
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Jun 4 2021 06:11pm
Quote (cantero @ Jun 4 2021 11:43am)
Good news. Bug works with grief of destruction. This shit is so good :thumbsup:


Still the PB one u showed me or other heavier base?
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