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May 1 2013 01:08pm
Quote (marvel. @ May 1 2013 08:02pm)
well like in :46 in video 1, you have spirits on the sin, those will never disappear. you tele way far away, even though she's just standing still a lot. in that situation you're going to have 3 spirits already on her, you can tele to side/pre-walk whatever she does to you. walk traps, walk dclaw, keep spirits on her and eventually engage with bone prisons. if you just walk/spirit more/bone prison she will get totally crushed when she fights you. the sin seems to be out namelocking you in general. like at 2:20 the necro isn't doing anything for a while(wsging just mb, which isn't needed, yet he still got hit by dclaw which makes no sense), he could of been locking spirits on then, then walk the dclaw, tele>pre-walk>spirit. if she starts to ww you can tele up a bit closer to your spirits and just bp. you'll have like 5 spirits going on her and if she engages she dies. but instead he like sits still then eats 2x dclaw hits, which doesn't even make sense, he like sat still trying to spear or something. 2:29 again, same thing, he builds up spirits but just randomly teles away. 3:49 is maybe best example, that sin messed up hard, i think the necros biggest problem is he never just wsg/walks down a bit, he always just teles away. those spirits aren't disappearing, they will follow and hit the sin and she only needs to take 5 hits to die. you need to just stack spirits constantly then bone prison her, just walk dclaws and you will never lose that duel.


Well bone prison is bm in 1n1's.. on europe, that was my point before. Personally I think prison is fine.. but I know its not gm vs a lot of people in 1n1's so I didn't make a habit of playing with it.

I mean.. stuff like walk dclaw hits, yes I did this overall, but this is just a small sample of rounds from what we actually did, so obviously your gonna see rounds where there are fails ( moreso on my side as its his video :P ).

Walking dclaw works fine, but without prison, your then open to ww which pwns you when your walking when you don't have prison ( even if prison was gm it sucks in private realms anyway ).

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on May 1 2013 01:13pm
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Well bone prison is bm in 1n1's.. on europe, that was my point before.

I mean.. stuff like walk dclaw hits, yes I did this, but this is just a small sample of rounds from what we actually did, so obviously your gonna see rounds where there are fails ( moreso on my side as its his video :P ).

Walking dclaw works fine, but without prison, your then open to ww which pwns you when your walking when you don't have prison ( even if prison was gm it sucks in private realms anyway ).


you can still be a lot more offensive relying on spirits, it just kind of involves out-namelocking the sin in general

but it is 2x harder to tank without bp
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May 1 2013 01:15pm
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you can still be a lot more offensive relying on spirits, it just kind of involves out-namelocking the sin in general

but it is 2x harder to tank without bp


Well yea.. I agree, I mean I did get kills on him and in the rounds I did get kills I probably played more offensively but.. what I'm saying is I don't really see why its much harder to play offensively vs barb than ghost :P

Leap seems just as easy to wsg tele/cast out of and honestly, if the barb doesn't have oak I think its fairly hard for the barb to hit necro without taking a lot of spirits.

Dont get me wrong, I've played some barbs on eu that are veeeery hard to duel against, but I think if they played on a ghost they'd find it easier.

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Well yea.. I agree, I mean I did get kills on him and in the rounds I did get kills I probably played more offensively but.. what I'm saying is I don't really see why its much harder to play offensively vs barb than ghost :P
mostly just because wwsins usually use 11fps tele, whereas barbs use 9fps

i'm also not use to playing vs private realm sins who do way more damage and use 10fps tele, so i'm probably bias
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May 1 2013 01:42pm
Well..from my experience there is quite a high % of barbs who play 40 fcr vs nec compared to the amount of ghosts who use 11 fps vs nec. Probably because 63 fcr barb makes some people epileptic :-)

And about the d2pk equipment, I mentioned these kinna ghosts as I've seen a few assa's on Eu with this kind of equipment on realms, and Azn_Masta in this topic said his realm ghost is better than his d2pk one, so its definitely not just a problem for people playing on private servers now I think.



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May 1 2013 01:59pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Apr 30 2013 06:21pm)
Normally fun duels would be assumed.

However knowing that he does not like me as a person and has harassed me prior to this thread in regards to BVC vs ghost duels with the same wording, I am pretty sure his "challenge" was more than just "friendly"


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