charge/smite simply doesn't work, all you have to do is whirlwind away and the pally can never hit you period.
so whats the pally do then, stay shiftsmiting? If the barb has any ranged attack (brawler) or knows how to aura->leap->clip, shifting is suicide

unless the barb has incredible lag or bad reaction times, theres no way to hit him, but every time you put on charge you're basically losing 10-25% of your HP.

but if the pally is just syncing around the barb can just sync around too, and a pally can't even attack a barb while hes syncing at all.
the only way for it to work against a barb is a telesmite build that tries to auraflash them and then tele on top and smite. And then its a matter of who dies first and whether the baba knows how to really sync or not


I'm sure syncing around and trying to get up next to a barb like you're on a hammerdin might work against people who are just above the top level, but anti-sync techs like 2x doom switch and good knowledge of how to ww away and sync yourself- negate that

WW synch isnt that great and a paladin good with charge can use it to position himself infront of a whirling or atleast make it so the barb is constantly having to turn left and right and if you add quick teleports to the equation right when the barb changes directions you can easily get a few smites in. This strategy forces a barb to be very defensive but with my strategy its hard for him to know where you are coming from and eventually he will messup and get hit.

also you act as if Smiter have to play offensively to win which is ridiculous, Smiter can play defensibly just as much as a Bvc can.

This post was edited by Andrewchos on Jul 5 2011 10:22pm

hard to get few smites in I think if slow from doom.... but if use pb maybe better but range is less

that, and clegs.

i was whirling away, tried long whirls, short zig-zag whirls and he still got me
he didnt shift smite for long, if he didnt hit prob 1-2 smites and off again playing extremly agressively
funny thing when i did kill him i'd see his naked pala die 1/2 screen away inside a holy freeze aura..crazy desynch

you need to build your barb for sync

hes str bugged with eni

dont think boots are str bugged cos hes 98 and no frw scs

This post was edited by hue_two on Jul 6 2011 03:23am

In pubs I see smiters win more but pro vs pro bvc has advantage (in nm gm pk on west), but if they both went all out it depends on a lot of factors.

how can you still discuss this, bvc shits over any smiter with low foh dmg

unless life tap then I think its hard