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Quote (UltraRobot @ Aug 25 2010 10:08pm)
one of the reasons im so tempted to make one is because you dont need a perfect fools on a barb like you do on a zealot since lolo socket is not as necessary due to crit from mastery. that and i already have all the gear to make a 100% perfect one from my zealot. :p ehh well i guess id need to get a 20/20 barb torch, dont have that lolz


yahhhh but it's still fun without perfect fools on a barb though. =D
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Quote (LilNeko @ Aug 25 2010 11:15pm)
yahhhh but it's still fun without perfect fools on a barb though. =D


yeah, im thinking one without any open sockets would still work fine

also had another question - about how much ar would you hit with this build:

Visionary with 2x 100ar/15 ias
SS with 100 ar/15 ias
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Quote (UltraRobot @ Aug 26 2010 12:01am)
yeah, im thinking one without any open sockets would still work fine

also had another question - about how much ar would you hit with this build:

Visionary with 2x 100ar/15 ias
SS with 100 ar/15 ias
BOTD
HL/Raven
37x 3/20/20


it should work fine you just nice bo helm

like 2barb/3bo/2o's.
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Quote (LilNeko @ Aug 26 2010 12:02am)
it should work fine you just nice bo helm

like 2barb/3bo/2o's.


im just wondering if you can still hit prud builds and or pallys with it, or if hitting it is np, then could you get away with 40/15s instead of 100/15s

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Quote (UltraRobot @ Aug 26 2010 03:01am)
yeah, im thinking one without any open sockets would still work fine

also had another question - about how much ar would you hit with this build:

Visionary with 2x 100ar/15 ias
SS with 100 ar/15 ias
BOTD
HL/Raven
37x 3/20/20


Does the visionary have + skills?

If it's 2barb/3bo, that'll add a nice chunk of AR. Without it, it'll just be a little more AR due to the 2 jewels. But yes, if you're a decent level you'll have good AR.

edit: If you stat'd dex just enough for MB, I'd say you'll be between 20,000-23,000 depending on your level.

This post was edited by OSUpride1 on Aug 26 2010 01:12am
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Quote (UltraRobot @ Aug 26 2010 02:01am)
yeah, im thinking one without any open sockets would still work fine

also had another question - about how much ar would you hit with this build:

Visionary with 2x 100ar/15 ias
SS with 100 ar/15 ias
BOTD
HL/Raven
37x 3/20/20


Yup this would work with either the 9 frame prude or 9 frame fort I listed, as long as it has +2 barb skills like OSU said above me ^^
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Does the visionary have + skills?

If it's 2barb/3bo, that'll add a nice chunk of AR. Without it, it'll just be a little more AR due to the 2 jewels. But yes, if you're a decent level you'll have good AR.

edit: If you stat'd dex just enough for MB, I'd say you'll be between 20,000-23,000 depending on your level.


ahh tyvm for the info. was hoping it would be over 20k

Quote (Biglouy @ Aug 26 2010 12:19am)
Yup this would work with either the 9 frame prude or 9 frame fort I listed, as long as it has +2 barb skills like OSU said above me ^^


yeah, i woulndt know which armor to pick between prud, fort, and valor. guess it would be good to swap them all out vs certain chars

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Quote (UltraRobot @ Aug 26 2010 02:20am)
ahh tyvm for the info.  was hoping it would be over 20k



would be 125 ias ;)


exactly :) and the AR should be plenty.
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Quote (UltraRobot @ Aug 26 2010 03:20am)
ahh tyvm for the info. was hoping it would be over 20k



yeah, i woulndt know which armor to pick between prud, fort, and valor. guess it would be good to swap them all out vs certain chars


Well those 3 armors all have more distinct pros and cons than some other armor setups, which can provide a lot of versatility in most situations. Prudence allows INSANE defense, vs fort's damage, and valor's life + minor AR boost (+damage boost if the valor is glitched -- allows rends vs ias gloves for 9th frame). Out of those 3, I was always a fan of prudence. I'm not a huge fan of running back to the stash after every duel, but I noticed that prudence is very well balanced vs most melees. If you're going Valor... I wouldn't really recommend a normal eth valor over those 2 armors. I think conc-wise, glitched valor or no valor =/.

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Quote (UltraRobot @ Aug 26 2010 12:05am)
im just wondering if you can still hit prud builds and or pallys with it, or if hitting it is np, then could you get away with 40/15s instead of 100/15s


you could hit any build actually =D
Quote (OSUpride1 @ Aug 26 2010 12:26am)
Well those 3 armors all have more distinct pros and cons than some other armor setups, which can provide a lot of versatility in most situations. Prudence allows INSANE defense, vs fort's damage, and valor's life + minor AR boost (+damage boost if the valor is glitched -- allows rends vs ias gloves for 9th frame). Out of those 3, I was always a fan of prudence. I'm not a huge fan of running back to the stash after every duel, but I noticed that prudence is very well balanced vs most melees. If you're going Valor... I wouldn't really recommend a normal eth valor over those 2 armors. I think conc-wise, glitched valor or no valor =/.


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