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#71
Apr 23 2010 05:23pm
Quote (GayPk @ Apr 23 2010 07:02pm)
No. What increases is the % not the life. so if in a 1 person game a monster's life is 100%, in 8 players it's, let's say 800%.

You kill a monster that has 20 000life and a base of 2500 life. When you corpse explode it, the 70-120% corpse explosion applies on the base 2500 life not on the 20 000 life(800% of 2500) so the damage done to another same monster will be on average:

20 000 - (0.70 + 1.20)/2 x 2500 + 20 000 = -17 625 + 20 000 = 2375

It will take on average 9 corpse explosions to kill the monster in an 8 player game while it only takes 1 in a private 1 player game ^_^ so you gotta blow 9 bodies to kill the remaining monsters, that's unefficient.


And where is the reading to back this up? all you are doing is typing this, it doesn't mean its accurate.

I would have thought if the monster had more life CE would do more damage based on that mosters life.....
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#72
Apr 23 2010 05:29pm
Quote (GayPk @ 23 Apr 2010 13:38)
Only works in 1 person game, when 8 ppl are in game corpse explosion is not efficient and if corpse explosion is not efficient the necro is not efficient. I say hdin remains best pvm char lol.


I comprehend that corpse explosion does less damage in a multiplayer game. But I can't think of a reason I would need to use it.
I cant think of a reason to run a multiplayer game with it.
Sorcs do classic rushes, there's no reason to do it elsewhere.
The best baal and chaos runs are done but sorcs using certain robutts.
Hdins are only one of the best in pvp, they are good, sure. They are really easy to play, I agree. But they still have a hard time killing act 3 magic immunes without any help. And wave 2 throne monsters.

If I were rushing, there's no use for corpse explosion, I am not going to die with 20 minions and 4k life in normal, and the person rushing is going to be behind me.
If I were doing baal or chaos runs, sure, it would be nice, but by the time i teleport on someone it's already dead. Nothing, even in a 8 player game, can sit there for a full 2 seconds taking 40k damage per second
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#73
Apr 23 2010 05:33pm
Quote (Bitsy @ Apr 23 2010 11:29pm)
I comprehend that corpse explosion does less damage in a multiplayer game. But I can't think of a reason I would need to use it.
I cant think of a reason to run a multiplayer game with it.
Sorcs do classic rushes, there's no reason to do it elsewhere.
The best baal and chaos runs are done but sorcs using certain robutts.
Hdins are only one of the best in pvp, they are good, sure. They are really easy to play, I agree. But they still have a hard time killing act 3 magic immunes without any help. And wave 2 throne monsters.

If I were rushing, there's no use for corpse explosion, I am not going to die with 20 minions and 4k life in normal, and the person rushing is going to be behind me.
If I were doing baal or chaos runs, sure, it would be nice, but by the time i teleport on someone it's already dead. Nothing, even in a 8 player game, can sit there for a full 2 seconds taking 40k damage per second


I like those odds.

Making one @ ladder btw.
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#74
Apr 24 2010 08:42am
Quote (PalmerFG @ 23 Apr 2010 18:33)
I like those odds.

Making one @ ladder btw.


good to hear you leik it
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#75
Apr 25 2010 08:54am
^_^
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#76
Apr 25 2010 12:11pm
wow, i love that guide, WELL DONE !

i got a summoner with all the stuff u mentioned, and it really works fine, here is another quick review video



unfortunately im going to quit d2 for the summer, thats why im selling this beauty

feel free to hit me with some good offers ;)

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=42724985

its softcore europe ladder
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#77
Apr 25 2010 12:17pm
Quote (jsprdmr @ 25 Apr 2010 13:11)
wow, i love that guide, WELL DONE !

i got a summoner with all the stuff u mentioned, and it really works fine, here is another quick review video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLXCOjHbmC0

unfortunately im going to quit d2 for the summer, thats why im selling this beauty

feel free to hit me with some good offers ;)

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=42724985

its softcore europe ladder


looks good. sorry to see you go
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#78
Apr 26 2010 08:35pm
:)
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#79
Apr 26 2010 08:53pm
Great guide :)
Makes me want to remake my old summon Necro
I beat the ubers with him an age ago, it took a while since I had to keep going back to get more of those Udars :p

I tried max block and non mb builds when I had him
To be honest when you're surrounded by an army you really don't take many hits
The only real danger is when you're "recruiting"
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#80
Apr 27 2010 05:38am
Quote (Lusus @ 26 Apr 2010 21:53)
Great guide :)
Makes me want to remake my old summon Necro
I beat the ubers with him an age ago, it took a while since I had to keep going back to get more of those Udars :p

I tried max block and non mb builds when I had him
To be honest when you're surrounded by an army you really don't take many hits
The only real danger is when you're "recruiting"


When I build pvp summoners I use wizzy and a fcr helm to get to 125 and use homo with an eld in it to get to max block with ease, usually with fcr/dex rings and p stat anni and torches i can hit 60+ block without dex pts
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