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Jul 14 2009 01:22pm
Quote (WhiteReflection @ Tue, 14 Jul 2009, 13:19)
LOL dodge?

I can get my hands on slipper/boots if I want to once roll over (only if I am a sore loser like you), then that's just going to be another 20-0 slam me vs you.

Man I don't even know if it's worth my time to slam a random.




Nope, I found the base armor and the runes for it, I have had this since last reset. Not sure about the shield, but that's definitely better than some random's non sup non perfect sorb piece of shit.



Sounds like another angry little NL jealous kid. Need donations?


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Jul 14 2009 01:27pm
good job ;)

i luve it

This post was edited by simppeli2 on Jul 14 2009 01:27pm
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Jul 14 2009 01:32pm
Quote (WhiteReflection @ Tue, Jul 14 2009, 03:19pm)
Nope,  I found the base armor and the runes for it,  I have had this since last reset. 
The Grief base is a perfect legit one as well.
Not sure about the shield, but that's definitely better than some random's non sup  non perfect sorb piece of shit.


you've found hr for your enigma or grief? they are duped as well

idc if your vt is 100% perfect or his v/t... It's still a stats whore war(yes its bolded^^). when it come to dueling it's an other story. I dont use perfect and i would pay to find someone who can beat me vt vs vt w/e the rules(hell, nm etc)

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Jul 14 2009 01:37pm
Quote (Hightimes08 @ Tue, Jul 14 2009, 03:15pm)
Another great guide as usual, Made a Hybrid asssassin Fortwayne on Useast ladder with your guide, Its a very fun character, now i'm going to have to try this out.

Thanks.


haha thanks

and best of luck if you try it ^_^
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Jul 14 2009 01:46pm
15hshield>15smite
it's a t/v other than that
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Jul 14 2009 01:48pm
Quote (smackme @ Tue, Jul 14 2009, 03:46pm)
15hshield>15smite
it's a t/v other than that


the damage added from maxing smite is so close to that of maxing holy shield that its not worth it. however, maxing holy shield adds another 4000def that maxing smite does not.

this was already proven in a few previous posts...

and yes... it is a T/V... it says so in the introduction paragraph...

Test was done like this:
made 2 builds exact same gear (both had 0% crushing blow)
only diff was one maxed holy shield, and other one maxed smite
they were then both placed next to each other and traded hits (taking turns for who hits first)

Heres screenshot:


This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 14 2009 01:54pm
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Jul 14 2009 01:51pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Tue, 14 Jul 2009, 20:48)
Quote (smackme @ Tue, Jul 14 2009, 03:46pm)
15hshield>15smite
it's a t/vother than that


the damage added from maxing smite is so close to that of maxing holy shield that its not worth it. however, maxing holy shield adds another 4000def that maxing smite does not.

this was already proven in a few previous posts...

and yes... it is a vt... it says so in the introduction paragraph...

Test was done like this:
made 2 builds exact same gear (both had 0% crushing blow)
only diff was one maxed holy shield, and other one maxed smite
they were then both placed next to each other and traded hits (taking turns for who hits first)

Heres screenshot:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/AznMastaBui/Diablo/Screenshot146.jpg


I've seen your screen after I posted my comment.
when I say maxing site is more beneficial I meant actual numbers, not trying hit-by-hit testing.
It's 1k dmg difference before any penalties IIRC.

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I've seen your screen after I posted my comment.
when I say maxing site is more beneficial I meant actual numbers, not trying hit-by-hit testing.
It's 1k dmg difference before any penalties IIRC.


actual numbers on screen shots max holy shield does more (however max smite has more hidden boosts - but its super minor and not worth the 4000 defense loss)

and the best way to test this damage is hit by hit to take numbers after penalties (no need to compare damage b4 the penalty because in pvp theres the penalty anyways).

i mean how else are u gonna compare them... specially since i didnt use any variables like cb that could throw off the results

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 14 2009 01:56pm
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Jul 14 2009 01:58pm
Ok, so you make an "example" character with perfect stats on Open and call that "normal" or "standard"? Great, just great.

Also, your pathetic 5.5k FoH does slightly less than 150 damage against anyone with a TGod's.

As a BvC player, I find it absolutely great that you would recommend to FoH a BvC until they HAVE TO attack you. That means that we can just stand there and GA your ass to death, which is really amusing.

Also, wtf is the point of Conviction if it doesn't change anything at all? And hello, Smite gives more damage to your Smite per point than Holy Shield. A lot more at that. And what's with all the realm-specific dupes and the overall D2PKness of the guide?

Also, recommending hotkeys is idiotic since people use different setups and there is no proof that one setup is better than the others.

This post was edited by olba on Jul 14 2009 01:59pm
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Jul 14 2009 01:59pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Tue, 14 Jul 2009, 20:54)
actual numbers on screen shots max holy shield does more (however max smite has more hidden boosts - but its super minor and not worth the 4000 defense loss)

and the best way to test this damage is hit by hit to take numbers after penalties (no need to compare damage b4 the penalty because in pvp theres the penalty anyways).

i mean how else are u gonna compare them... specially since i didnt use any variables like cb that could throw off the results


the numbers on screen arent actual numbers, they're bullshit.
I know CB might make a difference, but considering smite vs smite is usually 4-5hits tops, I wouldn't build mine around CB.
You can trune the numbers yourself, either with this:

http://diablo3.ingame.de/tips/calcs/dmgcalc/dmgcalc.php?&lang=eng

or this:

http://www.baronsbazaar.invisionzone.com/ppr/damage_calc.html
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